There's a warning in yellow about delays in hospitalization data. Anyway, it seems there's no 3rd wave in hospitalizations in CH. We'll know for sure in the next 1 or 2 weeks. If there's effectively no 3rd hospitalization wave.......we'll need a new hobby



Sorry for interrupting, please keep discussing about vaccines and humans rights

Don't worry, it's already been DEBOONKED! Our Deboonker hasn't verified it, therefore it's FAKE NEWS!

Except govs are imposing vax by considering vax passports. And your caveat "good take up of the new vaccine" also assumes mandatory measures. Marton, you aren't being logical when you relentlessly criticise Tony and others who express their unease with mandatory acts. Flu jabs aren't mandatory.

But TC is the one who misunderstood the article and, no doubt, welcomes correction?

Also from the article "The Health Protection Surveillance Centre said, however, that it “cannot determine where transmission occurred”.

Clearly, that 0.1% figure is unreliable and should be requoted with caution.

Not at all. Quite the opposite, otherwise, i.e. if it were mandatory, there would be no question of take-up rate.

Of course it doesn’t, if it were mandatory it would automatically have a good take up. You can’t make assumptions like that.

Edit: I notice Ace already said that while I was writing.

Let's assume it would be mandatory, which isn't exactly but hey ho.
I assume you had the BCG vaccine in your childhood. Could anyone fought it back then where it was compulsory? It wasn't compulsory only in EE if you're going to reply but hey, it was in the communist block etc

I'm afraid is going to be a matter of public health and less a matter of choice. Like it was with TB (many) decades ago.

The US has ruled that out, so not a good assumption.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56657194

It will be OK if you don't want to travel abroad.

Of course. We can't assume everything to be mandatory and say that we will approach it as flu jabs. Which never were nor will be mandatory. While those who dispute the obligation get a nice juicy criticism. All in one post.

The obligation not only got disputed here long time ago, was never the case in CH and govs are now renouncing CV passports too.

I can see Air travel interested in them, of course. Employers, events organisers, etc.

It's English, Jim, but not as we know it.

Honestly I can't work out what you're trying to say here. It was you making certain assumptions, which you now seem to be laying at someone else's feet; no-one suggested that flu jabs were mandatory, just that they may be useful as a comparator to (non-mandatory) covid jabs.

AFAICS such criticism as there's been here hasn't been aimed at anyone disputing any 'obligation', just those who quote articles and statistics without fully understanding or exploring what they really do and do not mean. Seems quite reasonable to me.

Honest gov

I sincerely apologise for replying to people who relentlessly post opinions I disagree with.

It is still a fair assumption about future steps. It is only a small step from requiring "documentation of recovery from COVID-19" to add "or documentation of COVID-19 vaccination".

From the NY Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/t...card-scam.html

Vaccine-card scammers

So you’ve had your vaccines, and you get on a plane and some w*nker who paid $25 for a scammed card sits down next to you.

Oh well, at least you will have had the vaccine to protect you from them.

Not 100% protected.

Nobody is protected until everyone is protected.

Well Putin reckons he's fire-proof now he's had Sputnik although saying that nobody's come even
close to ousting Putin from office, let alone a virus.


Probably the longest surviving world leader in the 21st century ( if we discount his job swap with
Medvedev )

Anyway it will be interesting if we either end up with Country Covid passports or Travel industry
issued Covid passports, as Quantas was of the firm belief that they could exclude non-vaccinated
passengers and still run a business.

Both here and in the US the vaccination and the card are free so forging does not look like a great business opportunity.