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Old 08.04.2021, 16:40
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passpor

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Both here and in the US the vaccination and the card are free so forging does not look like a great business opportunity.
Plenty of people who don't want the vaccine, I can think of a handful of 50+ girls that fall in that category.
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

As travel opens up again governments will be under increasing pressure from their nationals to keep sick foreigners out of their country.

As governments currently require negative tests they will add a caveat: “Or vaccinated; recovered”. Almost certainly.

Now how do passengers prove any of the above?

I appeal to the EF wizards to provide an answer to this.
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Old 08.04.2021, 17:31
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As travel opens up again governments will be under increasing pressure from their nationals to keep sick foreigners out of their country.

As governments currently require negative tests they will add a caveat: “Or vaccinated; recovered”. Almost certainly.

Now how do passengers prove any of the above?

I appeal to the EF wizards to provide an answer to this.
The only official government antibody test I had was Abbot, that came back Negative, however 3 Roche test's 2 before & 1 3 months later say positive.

(It was a test done by a friend working in a lab at the hospital, however it shows up online with my health records)
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passpor

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Both here and in the US the vaccination and the card are free so forging does not look like a great business opportunity.
While they are issued at no cost, when you receive the vaccine, you can’t pick one up at Walmart. These are targeted to those people that won’t have the vaccine but are worried they are going to have to prove they have had one. Reportedly these are coming from Pharmacy workers and volunteers at vaccination centres.

But read the article all the information is there.
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Old 12.04.2021, 22:18
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Would anyone know, how long the vaccination will be valid?

Currently the main vaccine produces claim that their vaccination protects the person for at least 6 months. Nobody knows how long they will eventually last, maybe 12 months, maybe 18. Possibly by the time the vaccination passports are introduced, those people who were vaccinated earlier will have their vaccination expired and will need to get back in line for new shots.

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Old 12.04.2021, 22:34
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

In addition to expiring vaccinations, there are different vaccines being approved in different countries. Would Sputnik V stamp be valid in Switzerland? Or J&J vaccination stamp? Plus there will be different Covid mutations in different countries which might require different vaccines, which might be useless in other countries.

I think the vaccination passports simply will not work, this will be too complicated.
Not to mention that for each vaccine the list of medical conditions would need to be maintained for which the vaccine is not safe to be taken. Someone might be too sick to take Sputnik V and Moderna, but would be still ok to use Pfizer... What will he put in his vaccination passport then?

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Old 12.04.2021, 22:45
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In addition to expirining vaccinations, there are different vaccines being approved in different countries. Would Sputnik V stamp be valid in Switzerland? Or J&J vaccination stamp? Plus there will be different Covid mutations in different countries which might require different vaccines, which might be useless in other countries.

I think the vaccination passports simply will not work, this will be too complicated.
Not to mention that for each vaccine the list of medical conditions would need to be maintained for which the vaccine is not safe to be taken. Someone might be too sick to take Sputnik V and Moderna, but would be still ok to use Pfizer... What will he put in his vaccination passport then?
I found this link on the BAG site that explains all about the Swiss certification that you get to confirm you were COVID-19 vaccinated, it is in the German language - also available in French and Italian.
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Old 12.04.2021, 22:51
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I found this link on the BAG site that explains all about the Swiss certification that you get to confirm you were COVID-19 vaccinated, it is in the German language - also available in French and Italian.
Will they accept Sputnik V vaccination?
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Old 12.04.2021, 23:06
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Will they accept Sputnik V vaccination?
BAG in Switzerland issues vaccination certificates certifying that someone was vaccinated in Switzerland with a Swiss-approved vaccine.
They do not issue certificates for vaccinations carried out in other countries.

I suppose eventually COVID passports will be like animal vaccination passports where each entry for a vaccine says for how long it is valid; to maintain the immunity for each one you need to have a booster dose and an updated entry before the validity runs out.
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Old 12.04.2021, 23:11
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

If the Covid passports are to be used for the international travel, then the countries have to agree which vaccines they recognize as, well, the real vaccines. Pfizer vaccine is not approved in Russia, will Russians treat anyone with Pfizer stamp as vaccinated? Or if I get Sputnik V in Russia, will Switzerland recognize my vaccination? If not, will it be safe for me to get the Pfizer shot on top of Sputnik?

There could be so many issues.
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Old 12.04.2021, 23:28
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If the Covid passports are to be used for the international travel, then the countries have to agree which vaccines they recognize as, well, the real vaccines. Pfizer vaccine is not approved in Russia, will Russians treat anyone with Pfizer stamp as vaccinated? Or if I get Sputnik V in Russia, will Switzerland recognize my vaccination? If not, will it be safe for me to get the Pfizer shot on top of Sputnik?

There could be so many issues.
Countries are sovereign so they can each regulate which vaccines are acceptable to allow people entry, possibly the World Health Organisation will take some sort of coordinating role.
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

More than 1200 UK church ministers are urging PM Boris Johnson not to introduce coronavirus vaccine
passports or certificates.

BBC News - Covid-19 Vaccine passports 'unethical', church ministers warn

The Equality & Human Rights Commission warns of a two-tier society arising from the use of such
passports and certificates to travel, work, attend events & venues and that if they must be used to
open up society following the Covid lockdowns & restrictions; they must be time limited and
regularly reviewed by Parliament.

BBC News - Covid-19 Vaccine passports could create two-tier society, equality watchdog warns
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Old 17.04.2021, 09:59
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More than 1200 UK church ministers are urging PM Boris Johnson not to introduce coronavirus vaccine
passports or certificates.

BBC News - Covid-19 Vaccine passports 'unethical', church ministers warn

The Equality & Human Rights Commission warns of a two-tier society arising from the use of such
passports and certificates to travel, work, attend events & venues and that if they must be used to
open up society following the Covid lockdowns & restrictions; they must be time limited and
regularly reviewed by Parliament.

BBC News - Covid-19 Vaccine passports could create two-tier society, equality watchdog warns
True, they should ban driving licences as well, which also creates a two-tier society
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Good news, now all we need is for the Swiss & the UK to follow suit.

El Pais - Spain will not require Covid tests or quarantines for travellers arriving with vaccine passports
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Here's the EU's FAQ questions and answers concerning their new Digital Green vaccination certificate issued to
those that have been fully vaccinated, also those tested negative with limited duration. When they
become available by the end of June, according to the latest estimates.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres.../qanda_21_1187

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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

The BBC looks at Denmarks Coronapas ( or corona passport ) which works off a Danish smartphone
app called MinSundhed ( MyHeath ) linked to the Danish ID system.
It can be provided as a paper certificate as well.

All with the aim of opening up society after the lockdowns and restrictions.

BBC News - Coronapas: The passport helping Denmark open up after Covid
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I found this link on the BAG site that explains all about the Swiss certification that you get to confirm you were COVID-19 vaccinated, it is in the German language - also available in French and Italian.
Unless I missed something.. it says what it will be.. not how to get it or when
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Old 21.04.2021, 20:20
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Unless I missed something.. it says what it will be.. not how to get it or when
When I went for my vaccination they told me it would arrive automatically after my second jab.
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Old 21.04.2021, 20:41
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Well.. after my second jab i also have 'a pdf'... with details of my vaccination... it arrived in my email and a paper copy was printed out and given to me at the time...

But.. is that my Certificate ? I don't think so because there's no barcode or any link to any other system.
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