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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

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Regardless of the pro/con discussions, it is happening.

The eyes of European leaders are on Denmark as it becomes the continent's first country to fully embrace Covid passports

For 27-year-old Nikoline Maria Flørnæss Brandenborg her most recent visit to a Copenhagen bar was a little different from the previous one, five months earlier.

The music at Frederiksberg Ølbar was as loud as before lockdown and the beer just as expensive. But before getting the drinks in this time, Nikoline had to first show the bartender her corona passport to prove she was infection-free.

It is now possible to dine indoors at a restaurant with up to nine others, provided you reserve a table and everyone has a coronapas. Museums, zoos, and even football stadiums are now opening up – for those with the all-important passport.
Happy to read that, it's a sensible and safe approach.
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Old 04.05.2021, 08:01
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

ZDF just reported that three weeks after their first jab, Germans will be considered as having the same status as those with a current PCR test.
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Old 04.05.2021, 08:05
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ZDF just reported that three weeks after their first jab, Germans will be considered as having the same status as those with a current PCR test.
After the first jab already? Do you have a link please? Would save me money when I go to Germany
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Old 04.05.2021, 08:25
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Sorry; I heard only part of the report on TV. The situation is this: Certain states have implemented this already...there is a legislative initiative in the Bundesparliament to make it Germany-wide. It will be voted on Monday, and then it goes to the Bundesrat for confirmation...everyone says they'll support it--Merkel, Greens, Social Dems, Free Dems, Linke. It is very unlikely that the Bundesrat will go against all this positivity. This link shows which states already adopted it.

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/erl...dnung-101.html
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Old 12.05.2021, 21:08
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Baden-Württemberg(BW) just announced that from tomorrow morning Swiss are allowed to shop without proof of tests or vaccination so long as they stay less than 24 hours. They say this is now standard across Germany but I did not find confirmation of the "across Germany" part yet.

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Old 12.05.2021, 21:34
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Sorry; I heard only part of the report on TV. The situation is this: Certain states have implemented this already...there is a legislative initiative in the Bundesparliament to make it Germany-wide. It will be voted on Monday, and then it goes to the Bundesrat for confirmation...everyone says they'll support it--Merkel, Greens, Social Dems, Free Dems, Linke. It is very unlikely that the Bundesrat will go against all this positivity. This link shows which states already adopted it.

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/erl...dnung-101.html
Thanks. Think you need to be fully vaccinated though and then - from what I read elsewhere - only as from 2 weeks after the second vaccination
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Old 12.05.2021, 21:39
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Thanks. Think you need to be fully vaccinated though and then - from what I read elsewhere - only as from 2 weeks after the second vaccination
No, not vaccinated, look at my post.
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Old 12.05.2021, 21:43
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No, not vaccinated, look at my post.
Roegner wasn’t replying to your post, she quoted bossybaby who was referring to travel in Germany in general and not just for shopping.
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Old 12.05.2021, 23:37
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

…Green list countries and territories - from 17 May
From 17 May there will be a new green list of countries and territories. Until 17 May all countries and territories outside of the Common Travel Area are either red list or amber list countries or territories. If you travel to England before 17 May you must follow the relevant amber list or red list rules.

This section tells you what you will have to do if you travel to England from a country or territory on the green list from 17 May. You must only have been in or travelled through a green list country or the Common Travel Area in the previous 10 days.

Before travel to England
Before you travel to England you must:

take a COVID-19 test
book and pay for a day 2 COVID-19 test
complete a passenger locator form
On arrival in England
You must take a COVID-19 test on or before day 2 after you arrive.

You do not need to quarantine unless the test result is positive.

You must follow these rules even if you have been vaccinated.
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Old 19.05.2021, 15:37
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Oh goody, we (some of us) will soon be able to travel to the EU.
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The European Union (EU) is reportedly ready to reopen its borders to vaccinated travelers in another sign world leaders are working toward a return to normal following the coronavirus pandemic.

Christian Wigand, a spokesperson for the EU, confirmed the organization's plans to The Washington Post.
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Old 19.05.2021, 15:50
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Oh goody, we (some of us) will soon be able to travel to the EU.
Woohoo, Summer road trips are very likely going to be a reality.
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

It’ll be interesting to see how they decide who outside the EU can travel under this arrangement. I had read elsewhere that the threshold would be 100 cases or less of COVID per 100,000 inhabitants. However, Switzerland is averaging close to 8,000 per instances of COVID per 100,000 inhabitants

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/epid...ble#showDetail
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Old 19.05.2021, 16:03
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It’ll be interesting to see how they decide who outside the EU can travel under this arrangement. I had read elsewhere that the threshold would be 100 cases or less of COVID per 100,000 inhabitants. However, Switzerland is averaging close to 8,000 per instances of COVID per 100,000 inhabitants

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/epid...ble#showDetail
It's 12.9/100k at the moment (7 day avg), 7564 / 100k is the total cases!

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Old 19.05.2021, 16:17
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Swiss COVID passport arriving in June:

https://www.tio.ch/svizzera/attualit...o-tre-svizzera

https://lenews.ch/2021/05/17/only-va...n-switzerland/

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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

So with the EU opening up to vaccinated travellers, will Switzerland follow? I hope so!
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Old 20.05.2021, 19:17
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It’ll be interesting to see how they decide who outside the EU can travel under this arrangement. I had read elsewhere that the threshold would be 100 cases or less of COVID per 100,000 inhabitants. However, Switzerland is averaging close to 8,000 per instances of COVID per 100,000 inhabitants

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/epid...ble#showDetail
EU officially approves entry for vaccinated travelers

The European Union gave final approval on Thursday to entry for vaccinated travelers. The European Council said in a statement that it adopted the European Commission’s recommendations on non-essential travel to member states. The EU recommends member states lifting restrictions on travelers from outside who have been fully vaccinated — meaning they received their last required dose at least 14 days prior to travel.

The EU recommends allowing residents from countries reporting 75 COVID-19 cases per 100,000 inhabitants over the past 14 days, an increase from 25.

We seem to be in the good zone.
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Old 20.05.2021, 19:55
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EU officially approves entry for vaccinated travelers

The European Union gave final approval on Thursday to entry for vaccinated travelers. The European Council said in a statement that it adopted the European Commission’s recommendations on non-essential travel to member states. The EU recommends member states lifting restrictions on travelers from outside who have been fully vaccinated — meaning they received their last required dose at least 14 days prior to travel.

The EU recommends allowing residents from countries reporting 75 COVID-19 cases per 100,000 inhabitants over the past 14 days, an increase from 25.
How would this work in Switzerland? Would Switzerland only allow Pfizer and Moderna vaccinated persons?

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Countries could also accept travelers who had been vaccinated with shots approved by the World Health Organization, which include those vaccines and a vaccine from Chinese biopharmaceutical company Sinopharm.
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Re: Controversy surrounding the introduction of Covid Passports

Are vaccination passports becoming political ?

Namely with many proposed vaccination passports listing those vaccines that are approved as qualifying
for the passports and obviously those that are not approved being excluded.

Are people who didn't get innoculated by an approved Covid-19 vaccine going to accept being refused
a Covid vaccination passport; even if the vaccine was approved internationally by the WHO or other
world health bodies.

Are vaccination passports becoming politicised as - surprise, surprise Russia's Sputnik V and China's
Sinovac vaccines are ( as far as I'm aware ) not on any of the proposed vaccination passport
qualifying vaccines.

So is this another way of pressuring Russia and China over the freedom of travel of it's citizens,
on top of sanctions.
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How would this work in Switzerland? Would Switzerland only allow Pfizer and Moderna vaccinated persons?
Well and Johnson and Johnson.

It'd be pretty ludicrous to exclude AZ given its been deployed all around Europe. Probably it'll get allowed just as we finish vaccinating here for that purpose...

Otherwise all the AZ people have to fly to "Mulhouse", and get the tram over the border, which is just silly.
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EU officially approves entry for vaccinated travelers

The European Union gave final approval on Thursday to entry for vaccinated travelers. The European Council said in a statement that it adopted the European Commission’s recommendations on non-essential travel to member states. The EU recommends member states lifting restrictions on travelers from outside who have been fully vaccinated — meaning they received their last required dose at least 14 days prior to travel.

The EU recommends allowing residents from countries reporting 75 COVID-19 cases per 100,000 inhabitants over the past 14 days, an increase from 25.

We seem to be in the good zone.
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We seem to be around 20 per 100,000 per day, so around 140 a week. Or am I missing something?
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