I am fully vaccinated and have no wish to take the risk of mixing with the great unwashed.

+1

I was reading in the NYT (sorry can’t find it) about an increase in Vaccine anger. Those already vaccinated getting angry at those too lazy, too ‘smart’, too ‘stupid’, too scared or too ??? to get vaccinated. A pandemic of the non-vaccinated.

I think that anger is just beginning.

If everyone was being responsible we wouldn’t need vaccine certificates but because not everyone is, we have to protect the rest of us, in particular children and others that cannot, for medical reasons, be vaccinated.

And?

Say you turn up at your doctor's because of that lasting and severe headache. Turns out you have a brain tumor.

How dare those bloody shenanigans file your case under brain tumor, your problem is the headache for christ's sake!

There’s so much wrong with it that it’s hard to know where to start:

That it distorts data and the number of hospitalisations due to Covid?
That so many people are catching Covid in hospital?
That so many people are catching Covid in hospital where everyone wears masks?
That people were turning once a week to clap this sort of thing?

Whatever way you look at it, it’s really not good!

The point is, someone going into hospital with a broken leg, asymptomatic for Covid but tests +ve - is being recorded as hospitalised with Covid!

So what is your solution?
Someone turns up at the hospital with COVid symptoms and the hospital makes a test and then says go home and we will call you in six days if it is positive?

They can fast track PCR tests in under an hour, even doing a batch would know within 4. I would assume there is a lab at the hospital!

TCs link was not talking about people admitted to hospital with covid symptoms (see Island Monkey's post if that was too difficult to understand).
Why do you twist it?

As to the solution: The hospital needs to have a covid-report list (or a remark possibility next to the names) that clearly states "not admitted/treated for covid". Because yes, the case has to be reported but no it should not give the impression the person came in having covid-symptoms./needing treatment for that.
All these statistic-believers should definitely vote for solving this.

So if significant numbers of people are admitted to hospital for reasons not correlated to COVID, but are then discovered to be positive, and the transmission is not actually occuring in the hospital, this would imply that significant numbers of people in the population at large must have COVID without knowing it. Which is maybe good news as it would suggest that many people get through COVID without any symptoms.

You do know we are talking about the NHS.

But that is not news. It's well known.

I would actually like to be tested on that but they're not interested in pushing this offer and of course it bares no sensation.
Still, when I get round to it, I'll ask my GP about it, I think it's done by taking blood and sending that to a lab, so he should be able to do it.

Here's bit more info (your link is paywalled), thx to The Standard:
The second group of 43% wasn't tested until after admission, there's no way to know when they turned positive, let alone when or how they were infected. The short hospital stay until they were tested makes an infection after admission quite unlikely. While it's certainly worth reacting to, e.g. by testing everybody upon admission, it definitely doesn't warrant the level of certainty you post with.

As for the remaining 13%:
There's a chance that many of them were infected by those from among the 43% or the 13% group. Here as well a tighter testing regime should help, and provide reliable data to base further decisions upon.

In short: hold your horses, not enough data yet for any conclusions.

Perhaps making sure that the patient did indeed not test positive upon admission should be the first step. Just a thought from a "statistic-believer".

I am talking about the NHS, just the one in Malta, which seems to have it's act together.

(Totally OT) Are you in Gozo or Malta itself?

Malta, Gozo is a little bit quiet, the old people who live their are past their 'best before' date

And you should not, because you are the super spreader now

https://www.technologyreview.com/202...uperspreaders/

The good news is that the flu has been cured! 0 cases!

Faulty thinking, the plan of a vaccine passport has been in the works for years by the WEF, Gates Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, etc.

I hear if you wear two masks you'll be safer