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LtSoftDrink 09.04.2021 18:06

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3294655)
I carefully used the phrase, "The Monarchy really does not have any say in the politics of the U.K. any more.".

Your link is to something that occurred fifty years ago.

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3294664)
I never wrote that.

I do not believe that such a law amendment would be allowed to be passed today.

If you don't think that much has changed in Europe, or indeed the world in fifty years then it may be prudent to remember that only twenty years before that, Stalin was still in power in the Soviet Union and only a few years before that, the Germans had their concentration camps...

I never said you wrote "that" - I just questioned your assertion that the UK monarchy no longer had any influence any more in relevant legistlation
Sorry, your time frame aside re Stalin and Nazi-Germany is even more questionable

curley 09.04.2021 18:06

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3294620)
FTFY.

"By March 1947, Philip had abandoned his Greek and Danish royal titles"

Tom

I wanted to know who the man was before everybody only saw him as "the husband of the queen" and looked it up. I thought at least when he dies he should be seen as a person and not only as somebody's supplement. Just a spontaneous notion of mine.

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Originally Posted by jacek (Post 3294615)
I would highly recommend The Crown on Netflix in order to revamp the basic knowledge :D:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cr...s)?wprov=sfti1

Ha, did you say revamp?
You should say start from scratch. But I politely decline. :)

Tom1234 09.04.2021 18:24

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Originally Posted by LtSoftDrink (Post 3294670)
I never said you wrote "that" - I just questioned your assertion that the UK monarchy no longer had any influence any more in relevant legistlation

Just give me a link to your proof that it does. That would make things much clearer.

(It's easier to show that something does happen rather than it does not).


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Originally Posted by LtSoftDrink (Post 3294670)

Sorry, your time frame aside re Stalin and Nazi-Germany is even more questionable

Why?

Isn't twenty years a shorter time than fifty years?

Not really sure at all what your point was here.

slammer 09.04.2021 18:58

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This is my favorite picture of them both.

Guest 09.04.2021 18:59

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Originally Posted by krlock3 (Post 3294663)
Sounds to me like you obviously watched it!

Nope, not in the least bit interested in that sort of thing, It's just like Tabloid muckraking taken to the next level.

Guest 09.04.2021 19:53

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Originally Posted by curley (Post 3294671)
I wanted to know who the man was before everybody only saw him as "the husband of the queen" and looked it up. I thought at least when he dies he should be seen as a person and not only as somebody's supplement. Just a spontaneous notion of mine.

The Beeb did a very thorough documentary about exactly that. After seeing it HRH The Duke rose a lot!! in my estimation! Recommendable to watch

Belgianmum 09.04.2021 20:02

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Originally Posted by EastEnders (Post 3294706)
The Beeb did a very thorough documentary about exactly that. After seeing it HRH The Duke rose a lot!! in my estimation! Recommendable to watch

It will probably be shown at some point this evening. The BBC has devoted the whole evening across both channels to programmes about the Duke of Edinburgh as have the other major UK channels.

komsomolez 09.04.2021 20:26

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Just found this hilarious quote:

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." - Prince Philip

Guest 09.04.2021 22:38

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Originally Posted by LtSoftDrink (Post 3294661)
Any link as to recently released fifty YO info has absolutely no bearing today?

It’s rather difficult to find more recent proof when the UK government refuse to release it.

I listened to a very interesting Graun pod a while back which made it very clear it does continue.

mossie 09.04.2021 23:01

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Always said the first thing that came to mind and good for a laugh.

RIP old stock.

Sky 10.04.2021 13:39

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The tribute and gun salute are quite touching.
Quite lovely how the country and commonwealth come together to honour their prince.
May he rest in peace.

Island Monkey 10.04.2021 14:23

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3294709)
It will probably be shown at some point this evening. The BBC has devoted the whole evening across both channels to programmes about the Duke of Edinburgh as have the other major UK channels.

I found the pre-prepared documentary on BBC last night a little strange - imagine being interviewed about you Father and having to talk about him as if he is already dead, wear black etc! :eek:

LtSoftDrink 10.04.2021 14:42

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3294675)
Just give me a link to your proof that it does. That would make things much clearer.

(It's easier to show that something does happen rather than it does not).




Why?

Isn't twenty years a shorter time than fifty years?

Not really sure at all what your point was here.

My apologies, if reluctant release of 50 YO information regarding tax fiddling is proof* that this well established practice is absolutely unthinkable in today’s “transparent” times to your reasoning, I can only commend your trust in mankind’s good intentions and suggest we have a group hug.

My questioning your mention of Stalin and Nazi Germany as a time scale reference (20 years/50 years) was just that. I fail to see how you can consider any comparison of historically acknowledged genocide with disputable financial favouritism a valid argument. For what?



*Perhaps post #49/baboon illustrates the point a bit…

Tom1234 10.04.2021 14:59

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Originally Posted by LtSoftDrink (Post 3294896)
My apologies, if reluctant release of 50 YO information regarding tax fiddling is proof* that this well established practice is absolutely unthinkable in today’s “transparent” times to your reasoning, I can only commend your trust in mankind’s good intentions and suggest we have a group hug.

Please can you give me a link to an article that states that the Queen of England was fiddling her taxes because that is what you appear to be insinuating?


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Originally Posted by LtSoftDrink (Post 3294896)
My questioning your mention of Stalin and Nazi Germany as a time scale reference (20 years/50 years) was just that. I fail to see how you can consider any comparison of historically acknowledged genocide with disputable financial favouritism a valid argument. For what?

Timescales - the world was a very different place fifty years ago.

Are you suggesting that the Queen still gets laws changed today to suit her own purposes, and this is somehow covered up?

JackieH 10.04.2021 15:21

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Within six hours of Prince Philip’s death being announced the BBC had received so many complaints about its wall-to-wall coverage of the news that it opened a dedicated complaints form on its website, as television viewers turned off and went elsewhere.

The BBC curtailed dozens of broadcasts on Friday, taking the nation’s most popular television and radio channels off air and reducing dozens of other broadcasts on stations across the country, to provide uninterrupted coverage of tributes to the Queen’s husband.

Same for all the other TV Channel- it was just oo much- hours upon hours. We swtiched off after a while until the 10pm news- and it was the same all over. When we got to Newsnight- hoping we would get 'other news' - Kirsty was dressed all in black and off we went again. At that point- we switched off and gave up.

With due respect - it was all too much. RIP HRH

Belgianmum 10.04.2021 15:26

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Originally Posted by JackieH (Post 3294909)
Within six hours of Prince Philip’s death being announced the BBC had received so many complaints about its wall-to-wall coverage of the news that it opened a dedicated complaints form on its website, as television viewers turned off and went elsewhere.

The BBC curtailed dozens of broadcasts on Friday, taking the nation’s most popular television and radio channels off air and reducing dozens of other broadcasts on stations across the country, to provide uninterrupted coverage of tributes to the Queen’s husband.

Same for all the other TV Channel- it was just oo much- hours upon hours. We swtiched off after a while until the 10pm news- and it was the same all over. When we got to Newsnight- hoping we would get 'other news' - Kirsty was dressed all in black and off we went again. At that point- we switched off and gave up.

With due respect - it was all too much. RIP HRH

I couldn’t agree more.

The BBC had the same programmes showing simultaneously on both BBC1 and BBC2 it was totally ridiculous.

I get that he was a very important figure in the UK and he deserved the tributes but it didn’t need to be 12 hours of it.

LtSoftDrink 10.04.2021 15:40

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3294903)
Please can you give me a link to an article that states that the Queen of England was fiddling her taxes because that is what you appear to be insinuating?
Are you suggesting that the Queen still gets laws changed today to suit her own purposes, and this is somehow covered up?

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...queens-consent


Disclaimer: any legally enforceable rights regarding possible insinuation of Royal tax fiddling are fully rejected by this non-British subject, who might have been wilfully misled by pseudo-liberal elements of UK publications and hopefully won’t live to regret it

Belgianmum 10.04.2021 15:51

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Originally Posted by LtSoftDrink (Post 3294918)
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...queens-consent


Disclaimer: any legally enforceable rights regarding possible insinuation of Royal tax fiddling are fully rejected by this non-British subject, who might have been wilfully misled by pseudo-liberal elements of UK publications and hopefully won’t live to regret it

I really don’t think that this is the thread to be debating this in, can you please take it elsewhere.

LtSoftDrink 10.04.2021 15:55

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I can take a hint - and will shut up

fatmanfilms 10.04.2021 16:01

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Originally Posted by Island Monkey (Post 3294891)
I found the pre-prepared documentary on BBC last night a little strange - imagine being interviewed about you Father and having to talk about him as if he is already dead, wear black etc! :eek:

I was working on his obituary in 1979-82 along with the Queen's, Queen Mum, Prince Charles's & Lady Dianna's in the run up to the wedding. The BBC have to be ready at a moments notice all the work I did was on 16mm film.


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