What are you on about? It's been there for decades. The AfD has even become "stubenrein" (housetrained) and part of the German Bundestag

Couldn't watch your mysterious link, it's facebookers only and I'm not part of that crowd.

The article you posted is dated April 2019, though, so clearly not talking about the same demo, which took place just a few days ago. The explanations therein aren't really particularly detailed either.

But in essence right-wing parties continue to exist in many European (and other) countries, and one has to realise that in Italy, the birthplace of the Fascist movement, it was never seen as such a bad thing as the German Nazi party. I'm no supporter of it, but the knee-jerk reaction shown by some people, including the OP of this thread, seems to be on a level that would be appropriate if we were talking about neo-nazis in Germany - just because they're politically right-wing and used the Roman salute doesn't make these guys the same.

In other words, just another basket of deplorables.

Surely, that'll teach them and make them change their ways.

I'd bet a couple beers that Italians have more colorful names for the people that miss the times of a puppet dictator supported by a foreign army. Hunger, persecution, death. No need to rely on Anglicisms and shoehorn US politics. Anyone familiar with those words?

The kind of vid that makes me want to load up on cal.9 parabellum because, that day will come.

That exact sentence could as well have come from one of them

Makes sense seeing as it comes from "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
"If you want peace, prepare for war"

I think you give Uncle Groove too much credit there, thats a bit of a stretch from your quote to his statement.

Btw: That quote reminds me to buy that TW Rome1 Remaster.

So hooligan is an Italian term?

LMAO, at the very least be consistent.

That said, fascism or something fairly close to that was always part of Italian postwar politics. Just like communism, though tellingly the murders and genocides committed under that flag seem to be of no concern to you.

You'll be fine living in Switzerland.

I did not write hooligans anywhere Also, I think deplorables is a dumb term, even in the US.

Back to Italy, the guys in the photo showed support for B. Mussolini in Milano, a week after Italy celebrated Liberation Day and presumably they just went back home after that. Nothing else happened. That shows respect to civil liberties, even for stuff like that.

About communism, I wouldn't give too much importance to how a dictator self-describes (communist, revolutionary, liberator). Some tell fairy tales about nationalism others fairy tales about communism, but they're leading oppressive regimes anyway.

Nor did I say you did. Nor do I think you're unaware, you're just trying to deflect.

Not just that term, identity politics (IP) altogether is dumb, "basket of deplorables" is just useful to demonstrate the idiocy. It may well have led to Biden's outright racist "if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump then you ain’t black", demonstrating quite succinctly what IP is likely to lead to.
Agreed. Not good but it's everybody's right to express their opinion. The more you try to suppress extremism the more pressure has built up by the time it explodes.
That part wasn't about Mussolini but about postwar Italian parties and parliament members.

Know nothing about that beyond years of the lead or whatever is the proper translation. Nothing factual, just crime fiction.

Can anyone provide a link outside of FB or a searchable title of the video?

The topic is of some interest, but can't watch there.

https://fr.euronews.com/2021/05/04/a...ilitant-decede

Tom

The classic moustache is the first sign.

Did she also grow a pair?




Showing support to fascist dictators is illegal in many countries. In Europe at least.

(for some weird reasons showing support to communist dictators is not illegal but that's a different matter...)
Btw, does anyone celebrate Franco in Spain? I haven't heard anything about it.

She would have only needed one according to the popular music hall and playground song of the time in the U.K.

Finished reading this. Indeed, showing support to dead communist dictators is not illegal. But, in some countries some symbols are banned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_o...s#cite_note-20

But, only for certain countries. Just read this story about Hungary. The EU court of human rights considers a ban on communist symbols or support is not necessary because :

https://www.legal-tools.org/doc/92e39b/pdf/

Spain, they had a decades long discussion about burying the guy in a place where he could not glorified. Couple years ago the remains were moved from a place were supporters showed up every year to commemorate his death date to a more anonymous place. It doesn't take much effort to read between the lines that public display of support are not illegal at all. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46048514

Context: Italian Partigiani. They weren't exactly fighting with their bare hands ;-)
Cheers
P.

nothing new, in italy there's always been successors to the fascist party including youth clubs and they've always had their meetings.

I would not lose your sleep over this. There is an equal or bigger amount of militant communists and anarchists (autonomous centres etc.) in italy.

A bit too polarized but balanced.