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French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

Probably this is non-news, and we will hear no more of it.

But French experts have warned of an increased threat level from a Chinese nuclear plant.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fren...21-6?r=US&IR=T
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Old 15.06.2021, 11:55
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Re: French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

If I understood well, the issue is that there is the risk of a leak . Deficient maintenance, risky operation protocols, waste storage, it can be anything.

The other option is the leak already happened. So, which neighbor can detect it? Japan, India, South Korea, Australia? I'd worry that Japan would hide the data for a while to avoid hurting the Olympics. I want to believe SK, AU, and IN would have no reason to delay the truth.
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If I understood well, the issue is that there is the risk of a leak . Deficient maintenance, risky operation protocols, waste storage, it can be anything.

The other option is the leak already happened. So, which neighbor can detect it? Japan, India, South Korea, Australia? I'd worry that Japan would hide the data for a while to avoid hurting the Olympics. I want to believe SK, AU, and IN would have no reason to delay the truth.
Does that mean the corona virus has failed?

Sorry, couldn't help myself
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Probably this is non-news, and we will hear no more of it.

But French experts have warned of an increased threat level from a Chinese nuclear plant.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fren...21-6?r=US&IR=T
Now this really really makes my day. Anyone know where I can get a decent low cost giga counter?
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Old 15.06.2021, 13:00
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Now this really really makes my day. Anyone know where I can get a decent low cost giga counter?
China?
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Old 15.06.2021, 13:01
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Re: French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

Or even a geiger counter. Build your own for 90CHF: https://techstudio.ch/products/kkmoo...mitlcd-display
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Old 15.06.2021, 13:16
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Or even a geiger counter. Build your own for 90CHF: https://techstudio.ch/products/kkmoo...mitlcd-display
Hmmm! Hopefully not made in China.
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Old 15.06.2021, 14:51
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Hmmm! Hopefully not made in China.
Obviously not - you build it yourself.
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Old 15.06.2021, 15:50
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Obviously not - you build it yourself.
Likely with Chinese-made components since nothing else is available...
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Re: French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

How are you going to calibrate this home-made geiger counter and should your neighbours have cause to be worried?
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How are you going to calibrate this home-made geiger counter and should your neighbours have cause to be worried?
Very very easy: almost 1000 buildings (ancient watchmaker workshops) are polluted in radium in Switzerland. A third in Neuchâtel, other third in Bern, and the rest in Solothurn and Jura. Only in 2014 workers found during the construction of a highway 120 kilos of radium. So, take the homemade Geiger counter when visiting these regions =) https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/watchma...dium-/44070300
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How are you going to calibrate this home-made geiger counter and should your neighbours have cause to be worried?
Could be pre-calibrated. Otherwise, must be some standard established by now for Alaska salmon and Japanese cars.
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Old 15.06.2021, 21:22
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Re: French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

Details here (in French): https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/ep...ishan-20210614

The leak is within the primary circuit. So, there should be no connection with radiation testing outside the plant. Unless the whole circuit design is faulty.

Speaking of leaks, the French reached out to the American government (U.S. Department of Energy). The usual CIA whore, CNN, reported this. Now, that is a leak that will make the world less secure as a U.S. ally see its confidential information sharing abused for short-term political advantage.
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Probably this is non-news, and we will hear no more of it.

But French experts have warned of an increased threat level from a Chinese nuclear plant.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fren...21-6?r=US&IR=T
These two statements do not necessarily follow.
Yes, it can be "non-news" but, because of huge political and commercial interests involved, we will have to endure hearing a lot more about it.
The USA has set it self a goal as a dominant supplier in nuclear, soon to be presented as GREEN, energy technologies. No opportunity to undermine Chinese, French (and of course Russian) contributions in this field can be missed.

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The usual CIA whore, CNN, reported this. Now, that is a leak that will make the world less secure as a U.S. ally see its confidential information sharing abused for short-term political advantage.
CNN are not the source of the "leak", they're just a media company who reported it, and no idea why you bring the CIA into it.
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Old 16.06.2021, 09:51
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Re: French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

In case anyone is interested:
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/nuclear-...uary-iap-2015/
And the materials can even be downloaded
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Old 16.06.2021, 09:59
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Re: French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

The earlier report said that the Chinese authorities have raised the safety limits for the area surrounding the plant .

This might suggest that there has been a small leak or that they are anticipating there will be a small leak

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Re: French warn of radiological threat from Chinese nuclear plant

Well the French should know ...

https://www.expatica.com/ch/uncatego...r-plant-60618/
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Old 16.06.2021, 10:20
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The earlier report said that the Chinese authorities have raised the safety limits for the area surrounding the plant .

This might suggest that there has been a small leak or that they are anticipating there will be a small leak
Real interpretation is it's OK to poison things, make a mess and loss innocent citizens in the name of progress.
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CNN are not the source of the "leak", they're just a media company who reported it, and no idea why you bring the CIA into it.
Of course CNN is not the source. They are the megaphone. Who pretended otherwise?

The Department of Energy does not have a mandate to pursue nuclear investigation and analysis in non-allied countries. The CIA does, for both civilian and military atom under the assumption that one can lead to the other. And even then, for "allies"... the French should know: http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/defaul..._french_nu.pdf
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