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07.07.2021, 11:03
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | That's what you get for defunding police. Whodda thunk  | | | | | Yes, the FBI really needs to up their game and get this whole business over and finished otherwise it will continue to hang over US politics like a never-ending cloud.
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07.07.2021, 11:12
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07.07.2021, 11:29
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | That's what you get for defunding police. Whodda thunk  | | | | | Were the Capitol police defunded? Can you provide a link showing that they were?
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07.07.2021, 12:19
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Cant believe a grown up believes that theater show was "a real thing" "orange man bad-people-like-him did that bad thingy" "FBI still searching for around 300 suspects "    it's like a simpson episode and ppl like marton and some stay at home housewives are buying it  | | | | | This, and the whole, "the very existence of the USA was at risk".
Just imagine if these guys had broken into Congress and started passing laws.
You know, they wouldn't have been real laws. They wouldn't have changed anything.
To suggest anything else is scaremongering.
It was just a riot that caused a lot of damage. A bit like BLM & friends were doing. Only without as many flat screen TVs being stolen.
But things have gone very quiet about that, because it's Ok when our friends do it.
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07.07.2021, 12:51
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection
hahaah yes, and the worse: They even showed how it was staged and organised.. (gates opening.. camera following and zooming -focusing hahah) the guys posing for photos , quanon shaman doing his catwalk and photo shooting session  )
and when it comes to BLM that's another 'New Normal' laughable staged activism .. One of the funniest elements was how the US was in a lockdown as well as europe (and/or interdiciton to protest or any actiivity) yet, BLM were allowed and in Paris and London, Berlin people who wanted to protest againist the lockdown and the tyrany were bashed by the police,sprayed with water,gas, and if you protest in solidarity for BLM then all good
Even this went unnoticed and I thnk how we're such a sheep, sheeple.. it's so humiliating . I have to find some stronger words to describe us, sheeple is not enough, again I'll say it, we sank so low , as a society and a civilisation I think there's no possibility to save anything 
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07.07.2021, 13:14
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection
orange-man-bad GET triggered now pic!
then as well
And sheeple has no problem with it.. Because, the official media didnt tell me how there's something wrong with this
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07.07.2021, 13:18
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection
yup,
there was a pre-run to the Capitol thing in Berlin some months before.
During an anti lockdown protest some people had managed to get past police cordons and were standing in front of the visitor entrance to the Reichstag
Nothing was damaged and nobody even got inside.
But some of the people had the old German flag. No, not the nazi one but the one they had before that. The old tricolore. You know, representing liberté, egalité, fraternité and all that.
And this was put on endless loop on Tv channels and a very shaken German President (who hadn't even been in the building at the time) was put on TV saying how he had feared for his life and how "our" democracy had been at risk, and thank you to the brave policemen had prevented that.
So apparently the lock on the visitor entrance of the Reichstag is all that protects German democracy?
But this being Germany, nobody in the press picked up on that detail or asked any unpleasant questions.
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07.07.2021, 16:59
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Were the Capitol police defunded? Can you provide a link showing that they were? | | | | | There's no discussing with you with while you're on your childish self-pity trip or keep spouting your bile.
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07.07.2021, 17:12
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, the FBI really needs to up their game and get this whole business over and finished otherwise it will continue to hang over US politics like a never-ending cloud. | | | | | The MSM will make sure it does. Just like they make sure Trump doesn't disappear.
They need both (until something better comes along, a rather high hurdle), it's part of their business model. The more outrage the more clicks the more ad revenue. | Quote: | |  | | | You know, they wouldn't have been real laws. They wouldn't have changed anything. | | | | | You seem to ignore the orange dictator. Though it's a bit odd that he didn't try to profit from the so-called insurrection. It seems rather weird that he even called for people to calm down.
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07.07.2021, 17:13
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | There's no discussing with you with while you're on your childish self-pity trip or keep spouting your bile. | | | | | So you can't provide a link or otherwise evidence your statement
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07.07.2021, 20:16
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Cant believe a grown up believes that theater show was "a real thing" "orange man bad-people-like-him did that bad thingy" "FBI still searching for around 300 suspects "    it's like a simpson episode and ppl like marton and some stay at home housewives are buying it  | | | | | I believe the people who organised this event should have to pay the price. One hundred and forty policemen were injured and the damage was in the millions of dollars, some extreme Simpson's episode.
So far as is known the FBI is only going after the people who entered the Capitol and then took selfies to make it easy for the FBI.
I do not believe the organisers should be allowed to get away with it, what do you think?
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | yup,
there was a pre-run to the Capitol thing in Berlin some months before.
During an anti lockdown protest some people had managed to get past police cordons and were standing in front of the visitor entrance to the Reichstag
Nothing was damaged and nobody even got inside.
But some of the people had the old German flag. No, not the nazi one but the one they had before that. The old tricolore. You know, representing liberté, egalité, fraternité and all that.
And this was put on endless loop on Tv channels and a very shaken German President (who hadn't even been in the building at the time) was put on TV saying how he had feared for his life and how "our" democracy had been at risk, and thank you to the brave policemen had prevented that.
So apparently the lock on the visitor entrance of the Reichstag is all that protects German democracy?
But this being Germany, nobody in the press picked up on that detail or asked any unpleasant questions. | | | | | Saw that - it was the most stasi like propoganda effort since....Maassen's firing over the video of "migrants being assaulted" despite the footage not showing anything of the sort.
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07.07.2021, 21:24
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | |
It was just a riot that caused a lot of damage. A bit like BLM & friends were doing. Only without as many flat screen TVs being stolen.
But things have gone very quiet about that, because it's Ok when our friends do it.
| | | | | Tell that to the police officer who had his head bashed in with a fire extinguisher. Tell that to all the Congress members who had to suddenly stop certifying an election and were forced to hide in another room as an angry mob broke out windows to get inside the Capitol building while screaming "Hang Mike Pence!"
It's mind-blowing the way some people so desperately try to downplay what happened and choose to ignore the reality of what actually occurred. It's also mind-blowing how so many of them automatically try to shift the conversation to BLM when in fact BLM has nothing to do with a mob of angry Trump supporters forcing their way into the Capitol building on January 6th.
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07.07.2021, 21:33
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Tell that to the police officer who had his head bashed in with a fire extinguisher. Tell that to all the Congress members who had to suddenly stop certifying an election and were forced to hide in another room as an angry mob broke out windows to get inside the Capitol building while screaming "Hang Mike Pence!"
It's mind-blowing the way some people so desperately try to downplay what happened and choose to ignore the reality of what actually occurred. It's also mind-blowing how so many of them automatically try to shift the conversation to BLM when in fact BLM has nothing to do with a mob of angry Trump supporters forcing their way into the Capitol building on January 6th. | | | | | Seems to be a big focus on flat-screen TVs, of course, if one cannot afford one then it is a bit galling to see others getting them for free | 
07.07.2021, 21:47
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Tell that to the police officer who had his head bashed in with a fire extinguisher. Tell that to all the Congress members who had to suddenly stop certifying an election and were forced to hide in another room as an angry mob broke out windows to get inside the Capitol building while screaming "Hang Mike Pence!"
| | | | | Tell that to the people who lost their livelihoods in the BLM protests and the people who were killed .
If you believe in justice you should oppose both expressions of lawlessness equally
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07.07.2021, 22:07
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Tell that to the people who lost their livelihoods in the BLM protests and the people who were killed .
If you believe in justice you should oppose both expressions of lawlessness equally | | | | | I'm one of the many "liberals" that never condoned the looting or the violence during the BLM protests. But for whatever twisted reason, some Trump supporters, including yourself, seem to think that those protests somehow justify the attack on the Capitol on January 6th. Hell, even my nine-year old is capable of understanding the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right."
Imagine if the situation was reversed and Biden lost the election last year and then managed to convince his supporters that he had actually won and that the election was stolen from him, and then, as a result, they attacked the Capitol and attempted to stop the certification of the election. Somehow I doubt that Trump supporters or yourself would be downplaying THAT.
It never fails, too -- Trump supporters always immediately try to deflect the subject to the BLM protests and never acknowledge any wrong-doing on the part of the Capitol rioters. Completely incapable of viewing it objectively or as two entirely, unrelated situations.
When does the bullshit end?
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07.07.2021, 22:18
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | But for whatever twisted reason, some Trump supporters, including yourself, seem to think that those protests somehow justify the attack on the Capitol on January 6th. Hell, even my nine-year old is capable of understanding the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right."
| | | | | Point of comprehension here . You are putting words into my mouth and accusing me of things I never said .
I never said two wrongs make a right or that one set of violence justifies the other .
I was merely pointing to the two totally different speeds and intensities with which the powers that be are pursuing those involved and those reposnsible.
The police and judicial systems should not be used for political ends.
It is the obvious politicization of the investigation that is making many people angry .
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07.07.2021, 22:41
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Point of comprehension here . You are putting words into my mouth and accusing me of things I never said .
I never said two wrongs make a right or that one set of violence justifies the other .
I was merely pointing to the two totally different speeds and intensities with which the powers that be are pursuing those involved and those reposnsible.
The police and judicial systems should not be used for political ends.
It is the obvious politicization of the investigation that is making many people angry . | | | | | Let me refresh your memory: | Quote: | |  | | | This, and the whole, "the very existence of the USA was at risk".
Just imagine if these guys had broken into Congress and started passing laws.
You know, they wouldn't have been real laws. They wouldn't have changed anything.
To suggest anything else is scaremongering.
It was just a riot that caused a lot of damage. A bit like BLM & friends were doing. Only without as many flat screen TVs being stolen.
But things have gone very quiet about that, because it's Ok when our friends do it. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Tell that to the people who lost their livelihoods in the BLM protests and the people who were killed .
If you believe in justice you should oppose both expressions of lawlessness equally | | | | | I wasn't putting words in your mouth. Literally, every time I see a Trump supporter attempt to engage in a conversation about the Capitol riots, they immediately try to shift the focus of the conversation to the BLM protests, and they repeatedly try to downplay what actually took place. This wasn't simply a riot that caused a lot of damage. This was an angry mob that broke into the Capitol building during a Congressional session in an attempt to prevent the certification of an election after basically being told by the (then sitting) President to do so.
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07.07.2021, 23:00
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | It was just a riot that caused a lot of damage. | | | | | It was a riot instigated by a sitting President as part of an attempt to over throw the democratic process. It is something that should never ever happen in a democracy. It was an absolute disgrace, the kind of thing that might be expected to happen in a third world country and not even common there.
Now you can try to dress it up anyway that makes you feel comfortable but the only one you are fooling is yourself. We’re heard the speech’s prior to the event, seeing the behavior etc and heard the denials, deflections and trivialization afterwards. It is an absolute disgrace and I have a hard time believing this what honest, decent hard working Americans want for their country.
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | |
. This was an angry mob that broke into the Capitol building during a Congressional session in an attempt to prevent the certification of an election after basically being told by the (then sitting) President to do so.
| | | | | Let’s take this apart step by step .
Just suppose an angry mob had managed to intervene in the congressional session .
And just imagine they had forced a different outcome to the meetings being held there , even to the point of declaring Trump as winner of the election .
Do you honestly believe for one moment that such a decision would have any value ? No, it would be declared void the very next day .
I repeat . At no point was the existence of democracy in the USA even remotely in question . Anybody who claims otherwise is trying to leverage this politically . And it’s a very ugly and dishonest thing to do .
As such it was just a riot like any other . A question of public unrest that should be treated as such .
Just like, FOR EXAMPLE, the BLM riots .
That for example is not saying two wrongs make a right . It is showing that one riot is being treated differently to another for political purposes .
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