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10.06.2022, 17:42
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | You should have watched the hearing. I did not either. But I heard that Ivanka finally screwed her dad. | | | | | Trying to construct a comment that does not get me banned; would rhyme with "blest".
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10.06.2022, 21:17
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Remember when it was a conspiracy theory that Hillary paid for the Trump dossier and that Trump did not collaborate with the Russkies?
Hopefully, Swing voters will recognise the Trump threat to democracy when so many GOP election candidates embrace this big lie.
| | | | | What exactly is the purpose of this show? To prevent Trump from running again? You can prove he caused an insurrection, hold hearings, refer the case to the FBI and he would be barred from running again.
This isn’t about Trump or the 2024 election. This “prime time” show, where the committee hired an ABC executive to produce it and make it TV friendly is what it is…..a desperate attempt to gloss over their own spectacular failure in governing the country in the last 18 months, where they have not delivered anything of substance to their voters, drove the economy into the ground (or at least they will get the blame), and try to at least mitigate the shellacking they will get in exactly 150 days  | This user would like to thank kiwiguy08 for this useful post: | | 
10.06.2022, 22:22
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | What exactly is the purpose of this show? To prevent Trump from running again? You can prove he caused an insurrection, hold hearings, refer the case to the FBI and he would be barred from running again.
This isn’t about Trump or the 2024 election. This “prime time” show, where the committee hired an ABC executive to produce it and make it TV friendly is what it is…..a desperate attempt to gloss over their own spectacular failure in governing the country in the last 18 months, where they have not delivered anything of substance to their voters, drove the economy into the ground (or at least they will get the blame), and try to at least mitigate the shellacking they will get in exactly 150 days   | | | | | The Dems will get beaten up in November, most likely. And a lot of it is their own doing. Not so much Biden's, but the loony show on the far left.
Regardless, it is worthwhile having hearings and hopefully trials on an attempted coup. I believe it is more important to defend democracy from authoritarian kooks than to be concerned about gas at 5 bucks a gallon.
As Reagan said "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same ...". I believe this is true in America as it is in Europe.
And they admitted it: https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...33DklN3jg&s=19
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10.06.2022, 22:58
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection
Biden was successful to get the trillion infrastructure approved.
They should be running ads in every state about new jobs and repaired infrastructure.
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10.06.2022, 23:33
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Biden was successful to get the trillion infrastructure approved.
They should be running ads in every state about new jobs and repaired infrastructure. | | | | | Look up 2010 after Obamas infrastructure bill
7% goes to pure infrastructure and if generous we can say 24%…..will still be overshadowed by the failed BBB as that was what they negotiated.
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | I believe it is more important to defend democracy from authoritarian kooks than to be concerned about gas at 5 bucks a gallon. | | | | | Good for you, but you obviously don’t understand how Americans tick.
Thinks like (for now) $5 gas is the threat to Democracy
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10.06.2022, 23:55
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Look up 2010 after Obamas infrastructure bill
7% goes to pure infrastructure and if generous we can say 24%…..will still be overshadowed by the failed BBB as that was what they negotiated. | | | | | " Six months after the signing of President Joe Biden's $1 trillion infrastructure package, the government said Monday there are 4,300 projects underway with more than $110 billion in funding announced."
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11.06.2022, 00:01
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Good for you, but you obviously don’t understand how Americans tick.
Thinks like (for now) $5 gas is the threat to Democracy | | | | | Maybe. And maybe then at some point we all get the government we deserve.
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11.06.2022, 00:10
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Just watch FOX and learn all about how the deep state false flag operation of Jan 6 is documented on Hunter Biden's laptop. | | | | | "On cable, MSNBC pulled in a whopping 4.1 million viewers during the Jan 6 Committee hearings, nearly four times what the network averages on a typical weeknight.
Usually, dominant Fox News Channel came in second place on cable on Thursday night, averaging 3 million viewers from 8 to 10 p.m. CNN came in third place with 2.6 million. "
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11.06.2022, 09:36
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | "On cable, MSNBC pulled in a whopping 4.1 million viewers during the Jan 6 Committee hearings, nearly four times what the network averages on a typical weeknight.
Usually, dominant Fox News Channel came in second place on cable on Thursday night, averaging 3 million viewers from 8 to 10 p.m. CNN came in third place with 2.6 million. " | | | | | Preaching to the choir…..the people who watch MSNBC already have their mind made up.
On the actual news channels Abc, CBS, NBC… 11 million people watched the trial. Consider that on a typical day 18-20 million watch the nightly news, which is not in primetime
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11.06.2022, 11:00
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Preaching to the choir…..the people who watch MSNBC already have their mind made up.
On the actual news channels Abc, CBS, NBC… 11 million people watched the trial. Consider that on a typical day 18-20 million watch the nightly news, which is not in primetime | | | | | Do you have a source for your numbers? About 20 million people in the United States tuned in to the first hearing on the House's investigation into the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol Thursday night, according to preliminary data released by Nielsen on Friday. Also according to Nielsen, this audience was more than double the highest rated regularly scheduled primetime program this year.
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11.06.2022, 22:46
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | And? What's the relevance of who her spouse is? | | | | | 29 Arizona lawmakers received messages from Ginni Thomas in apparent bid to swap out Biden electors
"The message urged the lawmakers to "fight back against fraud" and exercise their supposed constitutional authority to unilaterally choose a "clean" slate of presidential electors."
"Justice Thomas was the only justice to publicly dissent from the Supreme Court's move in January not to block a court order greenlighting the release of Trump White House documents to the House investigators." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/10/p...ump/index.html | This user would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post: | | 
12.06.2022, 00:51
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Just watch FOX and learn all about how the deep state false flag operation of Jan 6 is documented on Hunter Biden's laptop. | | | | | Reminds me; The House select committee investigating the Capitol riot released text messages on Thursday between Hannity and then-White House Press Sec. Kayleigh McEnany, in which the conservative news host discussed the details of his conversation with Trump on January 7, 2021, following the attack on the Capitol.
According to one text message from Hannity, one pitch, in particular, seemed to pique the former president's interest: issuing a last-minute presidential pardon for Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden.
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | 29 Arizona lawmakers received messages from Ginni Thomas in apparent bid to swap out Biden electors
"The message urged the lawmakers to "fight back against fraud" and exercise their supposed constitutional authority to unilaterally choose a "clean" slate of presidential electors." | | | | | Would that have been illegal, doesn't Arizona's parliament have that authority?
(30-40% of the electors aren't bound to the public vote, their conscience is the final arbiter. Roughly half of the rest go without punishment if they decide to not go by the public vote. I believe that makes my question a valid one.)
If not, where do you draw the line, do spouses have to agree with one another politically at all times?
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12.06.2022, 17:08
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Would that have been illegal, doesn't Arizona's parliament have that authority?
(30-40% of the electors aren't bound to the public vote, their conscience is the final arbiter. Roughly half of the rest go without punishment if they decide to not go by the public vote. I believe that makes my question a valid one.)
If not, where do you draw the line, do spouses have to agree with one another politically at all times? | | | | | In Arizona, the 11 electors come from the same political party as the presidential candidate who wins the majority vote in the state in November, they’re chosen in advance by state party leaders.
So far as I know the State Parliament has no role; but I do not know everything | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | In Arizona, the 11 electors come from the same political party as the presidential candidate who wins the majority vote in the state in November, they’re chosen in advance by state party leaders.
So far as I know the State Parliament has no role; but I do not know everything  | | | | | Thank you.
Arizona's electors are bound to their plegde, and them pledging to the "right" one will be a precondition of them getting nominated.
But they still must have an option to interfere, otherwise her text would have been moot to begin with.
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"I have decided that I should be on the pardons list, if that is still in the works." - John Eastman
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | "On cable, MSNBC pulled in a whopping 4.1 million viewers during the Jan 6 Committee hearings, nearly four times what the network averages on a typical weeknight.
Usually, dominant Fox News Channel came in second place on cable on Thursday night, averaging 3 million viewers from 8 to 10 p.m. CNN came in third place with 2.6 million. " | | | | | And now, the network news channels are cutting away from the hearings for exciting breaking news......golf
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17.06.2022, 11:28
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | And now, the network news channels are cutting away from the hearings for exciting breaking news......golf | | | | | Did you notice the U-turn by Fox News last week?
" Jan. 6 hearings: Watch Monday's congressional hearing live.
The series of hearings will be public and televised."
Marie Harf, a Fox News contributor; "We saw a portrait of a president today who was increasingly at odds with reality, and that’s according to his own advisers, including people like (former U.S. Attorney General) Bill Barr.”
Rupert Murdoch's other US newspaper, the Wall Street Journal has been scathing about Trump recently, for example; " He might have been the only Republican who could beat Hillary in 2016. But he's a sure loser in the 2024 presidential election."
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17.06.2022, 11:32
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| | Re: January 6 US Capitol Insurrection | Quote: | |  | | | Did you notice the U-turn by Fox News last week?
"Jan. 6 hearings: Watch Monday's congressional hearing live.
The series of hearings will be public and televised."
Marie Harf, a Fox News contributor; "We saw a portrait of a president today who was increasingly at odds with reality, and that’s according to his own advisers, including people like (former U.S. Attorney General) Bill Barr.”
Rupert Murdoch's other US newspaper, the Wall Street Journal has been scathing about Trump recently, for example; "He might have been the only Republican who could beat Hillary in 2016. But he's a sure loser in the 2024 presidential election." | | | | | Double-edged sword. De Santis is building his campaign and winning over quite some support. I cannot quote any polls on this, but my gut feel is that the Dems might have it easier running against Trump than De Santis in 2024. I guess Murdoch is just switching horses now that Trumpism seems established enough to survive without Trump.
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