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15.07.2022, 17:43
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| Quote: | |  | | | The steering wheel story removed any shred of credibility of that testimony, still made for entertaining listening though. | | | | | today's news | Quote: |  | | | A Washington, DC, police officer has corroborated to the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021, details regarding a heated exchange former President Donald Trump had with his Secret Service detail when he was told he could not go to the US Capitol after his rally | | | | | Maybe the US secret service is not as transparent as we would like to think; " Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021 -- after oversight officials asked for them, watchdog says".
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15.07.2022, 18:11
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Maybe the US secret service is not as transparent as we would like to think; "Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021 -- after oversight officials asked for them, watchdog says". | | | | | Ouch #burned
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15.07.2022, 18:55
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Maybe the US secret service is not as transparent as we would like to think; "Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021 -- after oversight officials asked for them, watchdog says". | | | | | How often do quotes come back to bite their arse’s? As often as Trump’s tweets did, I’m sure.
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16.07.2022, 01:22
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| Quote: | | | | | How often do quotes come back to bite their arse’s? As often as Trump’s tweets did, I’m sure. | | | | | There are claims that Pence was suspicious of the motivation of the Secret Service agents who wanted him to get in a car at the Capitol on Jan 6. The claims are he feared he would be whisked away and not brought back in time to certify the votes.
Probably we will never know the truth, we do know Pence refused to get in the car.
Hopefully, there will be text quotes from the day to clarify the situation.
There are claims that quotes may have been lost during a planned equipment upgrade. They primarily use a secure email system where messages are distributed by and stored on a central server so it is hard to understand how messages could be lost.
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19.07.2022, 23:16
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Slow moving but seems to be getting there. | Quote: | | | | The Atlanta-area district attorney investigating Donald Trump and his allies' efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in Georgia has informed 11 individuals who were put forward as fake electors on behalf of the former president that there they are considered targets in the ongoing criminal probe, according to new court documents filed Tuesday.
Fulton County DA Fani Willis' office informed lawyers for the 11 fake electors that the status changed from witness to target was the result of "new evidence" that has come to light over the course of the probe.
The new court filings show 11 electors from Georgia who prosecutors could bring charges against. | | | | | |
20.07.2022, 17:23
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Inspector General Joseph Cuffari requested the Secret Service (SS) provide copies of text messages from 24 people over 31 days; SS found exactly one  | Quote: | | | | The Secret Service provided only one text exchange to the Department of Homeland Security’s inspector general for a month’s worth of records requests for 24 Secret Service personnel, CNN reported on Wednesday.
CNN obtained a letter from the Secret Service to the House select committee investigating Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot, revealing that Inspector General Joseph Cuffari requested in June 2021 that the Secret Service provide text messages for two dozen personnel from Dec. 8, 2020, to Jan. 8, 2021. | | | | | |
20.07.2022, 23:02
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This might have legs, hopefully.
---- Senators announce bipartisan bills to stop candidates from stealing elections
The two measures would overhaul the Electoral Count Act and close other loopholes in election law in an attempt to prevent future coup attempts. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...rcna39124?s=09
"Apart from Manchin and Collins, other members of the group include Sens. Rob Portman, R-Ohio; Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz.; Mitt Romney, R-Utah; Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H.; Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska; Mark Warner, D-Va.; Thom Tillis, R-N.C.; Chris Murphy, D-Conn.; Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va.; Ben Cardin, D-Md.; Todd Young, R-Ind.; Chris Coons, D-Del.' and Ben Sasse, R-Neb., and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.
Some senators are sponsoring one of the two bills but not the other."
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20.07.2022, 23:12
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Does anyone really give a rat's ass about foreign crap? 
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| Quote: | | | | | Does anyone really give a rat's ass about foreign crap?
Tom | | | | | Apparently you if you spend time trolling and groaning though the international affairs section of EF.
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| Quote: | | | | | Apparently you if you spend time trolling and groaning though the international affairs section of EF. | | | | | Just to groan stupid crap.
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22.07.2022, 15:19
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An amusing moment from the Committee hearing yesterday.
Before the riot, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) raised his fist in solidarity with the protesters. Then when the awful truth dawned he ran away like hell, watch the video (after the first 13 seconds) it is only 1.5 minutes long.
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22.07.2022, 22:28
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| Quote: | | | | A federal jury found former Trump adviser Steve Bannon guilty on two counts of contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena from the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack.
Bannon faces a minimum sentence of 30 days in jail, according to federal law.
After two days of hearing evidence and witness testimony, the jury reached a unanimous verdict in less than three hours. | | | | | No doubt there will be appeals and such, hopefully, this will encourage the other holdouts to obey their subpoenas.
After Jan 6 Sen. Josh Hawley sold mugs with his picture where he raised his fist in solidarity with the rioters.
Now after the video of him running away, social media is full of pictures of proposed mug upgrades like a lid to ensure the contents don't spill when running.  |
22.07.2022, 22:52
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| Quote: | | | | | To be honest, the video to me did not look like frantic waving. Just waving at the crowd and giving a thumbs up.
True, but in two years DeSantis will only be 45 and have some solid experience under his belt. He'll continue to be the rising star of the party.
By the time the 2024 election rolls around, Trump will be 78.5 years old with no recent political accomplishments because he's been out of office. And he'll still be out of touch with most of reality.
I think long-term DeSantis is going to garner more support as the party's future rather than a continued look back at Trump. | | | | | Curious Friday fact | Quote: | | | | 55 percent … of Ron DeSantis supporters say they never wear a mask in crowded, indoor spaces — a higher percentage than Trump supporters (46 percent), Republicans (39 percent) and ideological conservatives (42 percent). | | | | | |
28.07.2022, 09:43
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It's good to see that American Style Democracy is a lasting inspiration to others around the world. Iraq is following closely. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-62324296 | | The following 2 users would like to thank Ato for this useful post: | |
29.07.2022, 21:07
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A quote "Something stinks in the state of Denmark". | Quote: | | | | Missing text messages for top Trump administration Homeland Security officials in the days surrounding Jan. 6, 2021, are raising new questions about why the agency’s watchdog did not alert officials to the potential destruction of records.
According to a document obtained by the Project on Government Oversight, text messages for former acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf as well as his deputy, Ken Cuccinelli, could not be located.
DHS’s own watchdog failed in multiple instances to notify lawmakers about the missing messages. | | | | | So, not only the secret service  |
30.07.2022, 00:09
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| Quote: | | | | | Maybe the US secret service is not as transparent as we would like to think; | | | | | Which part of "secret" are people having difficulty with? Any secret service is going to do stuff that's not transparent - that's WHY it's secret.
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| Quote: | | | | | Which part of "secret" are people having difficulty with? Any secret service is going to do stuff that's not transparent - that's WHY it's secret. | | | | | What? There are federal laws on record keeping. And this in context of complying with subpeonas.
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30.07.2022, 00:22
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| Quote: | | | | | Which part of "secret" are people having difficulty with? Any secret service is going to do stuff that's not transparent - that's WHY it's secret. | | | | | Especially when it is helping a president who lost an election to foment a riot and to provoke the invasion of the most recognized symbol of democratic government in the world, the United States Capitol.
Do you see the difference between the secret service claiming certain information is secret therefore we cannot share it versus instead saying "Oooppss, we lost the information we are legally required to preserve".
I suppose not?
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Ari Melber / MSNBC report on the 8 plans to overthrow the election, and the wider Trump conspiracy:
Great summary by a legal mind of the whole plot. A slow moving coup.
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05.08.2022, 10:38
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Down in the forest, something stirs. | Quote: | | | | Former President Donald Trump's legal team is in direct communication with Justice Department officials, the first sign of talks between the two sides as the criminal probe into January 6, 2021, accelerates, sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.
The talks revolve around whether Trump would be able to shield conversations he had while he was president from federal investigators. | | | | | Looks like the net is closing but it would still be a very big step to indict a former president.
Contrary to the claims that no rioters carried guns, 12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses." including; Texan Guy Reffitt, DEA agent Mark Sami Ibrahim, Maryland Christopher Alberts, Alabaman Lonnie Coffman. | Quote: | | | | The longest prison term in the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021, came Monday when Texan Guy Reffitt was sentenced to more than seven years behind bars and three years of probation, $2,000 in restitution, plus mandatory mental health treatment..
Reffitt was convicted by a jury of five charges including obstruction of an official proceeding and transporting a firearm in support of civil disorder. Prosecutors said Reffitt, wearing a holstered handgun and body armor, led others attacking police on the West Front of the Capitol | | | | |  | |
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