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Those dark sunglasses of yours might help ward off the initial pepper spray but can also restrict perception
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Re: Men are simply better at everything?

Now we're coming to the question > why women are shocked,disgusted etc if there's a naked man around . Men, even if not interested or appreciating the naked body I doubt they'll be complaining and whining but women do . Why is that
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Now we're coming to the question > why women are shocked,disgusted etc if there's a naked man around . Men, even if not interested or appreciating the naked body I doubt they'll be complaining and whining but women do . Why is that
1) Religious upbringing
2) Cultural upbringing
3) Past experiences
4) Self-consciousness
5) Overwhelmed
6) Internal instinct

Teenagers suddenly become very reserved and shy about their naked bodies. For some, that desire to be private stays while others lose that shyness.

It's really about respecting someone's attitudes towards nudity. There isn't a right or a wrong and it isn't always about being disgusted. By the way, I know some men who would prefer not to see naked women as well. It's not a gender issue but a personal one.
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marton, eventually I dropped out of the med school )) end ended up in something else

but, you , you just love to be scared , then go for a hunt trying to find the 'bad' ones , constantly spreading fear , wanting to prosecute the 'bad' ones ,hmm you would've enjoyed so much , those good old times when the spanish inquisition was trending
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That's exactly what I'm doing. None of my comments towards you are ad hominem , I am only discussing your statements , opinions . Which is why we're here on the first place.
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Old 30.06.2021, 14:01
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Re: Men are simply better at everything?

olygirl , I agree and I thank you for evoking those points.

But more or less, that's why I have the question on the first place

Both, men,women are having 1,2,4 .. perhaps a 35 man, walking in a spa complex and there's a woman of any age , without the bottom bikini , he is not going to be overwhelmed or find that insulting . But , a 35 y. old woman, is very likely to feel 1,2,3,4,5 , ( 6 ) I dont really understand it

So why is that, since women, in spite of being brought up in some way , once they're adults, they are emancipated, they consider themselves equal , ..After all, what's so horrifying (bum,genitalia,nipples)


concerning teens, these days they're at a whole another level but because we were talking about aquq pool spa complex I was thinking anyhow about adults.
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Old 30.06.2021, 14:20
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olygirl , I agree and I thank you for evoking those points.

But more or less, that's why I have the question on the first place

Both, men,women are having 1,2,4 .. perhaps a 35 man, walking in a spa complex and there's a woman of any age , without the bottom bikini , he is not going to be overwhelmed or find that insulting . But , a 35 y. old woman, is very likely to feel 1,2,3,4,5 , ( 6 ) I dont really understand it

So why is that, since women, in spite of being brought up in some way , once they're adults, they are emancipated, they consider themselves equal , ..After all, what's so horrifying (bum,genitalia,nipples)


concerning teens, these days they're at a whole another level but because we were talking about aquq pool spa complex I was thinking anyhow about adults.
Fairdinkum.... May I ask your age? You've packed a lot there that confuses me, including your sweeping statement about women and men.
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Re: Men are simply better at everything?

olygirl, on my way (very slowlyyyy) to 45..

But then again I am not making any statements or have an opinion I was making a brief observation trying to cut out most of prejudice and look at it from another angle .

I can add to that, my question is , why a 35y old woman, cant just walk around that spa (not naked) and in case if there is a naked guy , why cant things be like "hm no big deal" and keep on going . But 90% would find that obscene and would complain . At the same time, men, would not (about other naked men or women) .

Which brings us to the point, where women, fear judgement, so if they dont complain and say out loud how that's unacceptable , others may think (and judge) how she likes it . Again, she's concerned about who ? people she's with (friends,ec) , or those same men (who yes might be pervs and if she's not screaming she's giving signals) . But should we have a prejudice toward men how they're just pervs and think this or that.

ps. I definitely need a break from this topic
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1) Religious upbringing
2) Cultural upbringing
3) Past experiences
4) Self-consciousness
5) Overwhelmed
6) Internal instinct


It's really about respecting someone's attitudes towards nudity. There isn't a right or a wrong and it isn't always about being disgusted. By the way, I know some men who would prefer not to see naked women as well. It's not a gender issue but a personal one.
There was another thread about nakedness and one U.S. women refused to let her two young pre-teen daughters get undressed in the same room together.

Attitudes are not always your own and can be hard to change.
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Old 30.06.2021, 15:08
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olygirl, on my way (very slowlyyyy) to 45..

But then again I am not making any statements or have an opinion I was making a brief observation trying to cut out most of prejudice and look at it from another angle .

I can add to that, my question is , why a 35y old woman, cant just walk around that spa (not naked) and in case if there is a naked guy , why cant things be like "hm no big deal" and keep on going . But 90% would find that obscene and would complain . At the same time, men, would not (about other naked men or women) .

Which brings us to the point, where women, fear judgement, so if they dont complain and say out loud how that's unacceptable , others may think (and judge) how she likes it . Again, she's concerned about who ? people she's with (friends,ec) , or those same men (who yes might be pervs and if she's not screaming she's giving signals) . But should we have a prejudice toward men how they're just pervs and think this or that.

ps. I definitely need a break from this topic
How did you come up with 90% of women would complain about seeing a naked man? You're making sweeping statements that are borderline offensive.

I think a break to clear your head might be a good idea.
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Old 30.06.2021, 15:10
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Re: Men are simply better at everything?

And how come you know whether it's 9 out of 10 or 3 or 4 ?? explain then

Since I'm not a quitter I decided to face this challenge and learn from this experience. So go on ...
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And how come you know whether it's 9 out of 10 or 3 or 4 ?? explain then

Since I'm not a quitter I decided to face this challenge and learn from this experience. So go on ...
You read, you ask, you listen, you watch and then you form an opinion. From my own experience in Switzerland, your percentage is way over the top. However, I couldn't give you a credible estimate because of all the factors involved and I doubt anyone else could as well.
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How did you come up with 90% of women would complain about seeing a naked man? You're making sweeping statements that are borderline offensive.

I think a break to clear your head might be a good idea.
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That's exactly what I'm doing. None of my comments towards you are ad hominem , I am only discussing your statements , opinions . Which is why we're here on the first place.
You believe you are discussing, in reality, you are simply making invalid assumptions.
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olygirl, on my way (very slowlyyyy) to 45..

But then again I am not making any statements or have an opinion I was making a brief observation trying to cut out most of prejudice and look at it from another angle .

I can add to that, my question is , why a 35y old woman, cant just walk around that spa (not naked) and in case if there is a naked guy , why cant things be like "hm no big deal" and keep on going . But 90% would find that obscene and would complain . At the same time, men, would not (about other naked men or women) .

Which brings us to the point, where women, fear judgement, so if they dont complain and say out loud how that's unacceptable , others may think (and judge) how she likes it . Again, she's concerned about who ? people she's with (friends,ec) , or those same men (who yes might be pervs and if she's not screaming she's giving signals) . But should we have a prejudice toward men how they're just pervs and think this or that.
I may be wrong but I think you're projecting your Antibodean sensibilities on to another culture.

I was at a campsite in New Zealand once with a couple of Danish young women and after we arrived, the weather was so nice they decided to strip of their tops and get some sun.

For sure, it was very nice but the local men staying at the campsite were going absolutely crazy as if they had never seen a pair of breasts at all.*

I felt for the women with the embarrassing scenes, noises and remarks the men were making.

*Of course not all Australians are like that.
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1) Religious upbringing
2) Cultural upbringing
3) Past experiences
4) Self-consciousness
5) Overwhelmed
6) Internal instinct

Teenagers suddenly become very reserved and shy about their naked bodies. For some, that desire to be private stays while others lose that shyness.

It's really about respecting someone's attitudes towards nudity. There isn't a right or a wrong and it isn't always about being disgusted. By the way, I know some men who would prefer not to see naked women as well. It's not a gender issue but a personal one.
I guess #6 internal instinct can be rephrased as evolutionary outcome, or "it's there because at some point it was useful".
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1 in 10 women he flashed didn't call the police.
Oh me God , thanks to me you made this great joke and I dont remember you being funny ladies here might put you in some Top 5 chart ))
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Oh me God , thanks to me you made this great joke and I dont remember you being funny ladies here might put you in some Top 5 chart ))
Why just the ladies?
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You believe you are discussing, in reality, you are simply making invalid assumptions.
Congratulations on an average of 85 out of every 100 of your posts on here attract groans, Olympic standard.
You know, I feel like Mark Horn of the forum
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You know, I feel like Mark Horn of the forum
I remember him completing the epic trek across the Arctic Circle, travelling above the tree line and against the prevailing winds and currents to make it more difficult ... of course, he could've done it the easier way but no , he did not try to fight for the "thanks" greenies (dont know how they're called)
On the other hand you remind me of Don Quixote, fearlessly challenging giants of the internet.
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