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Because they are being robbed of the opportunity to be recognised as the best woman in the world at what they do.
Start a thread about it. There's some intersection between people can do what they want with their bodies and sports organizers can do want they want with their sports (both of which I thoroughly believe in).

In some sense it mirrors drug taking in sport: people can't increase their oxygen carrying capacity with EPO, but genetic outliers with hematocrit oozing from every pore are fine.

I'd guess endogenous testosterone levels during puberty (if that can be reliably measured years later) could be a benchmark.
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Your logic is intriguing. You do know these people you think you should not be part of the female-section are officially admitted?
Yes, that's what is being discused in the world of sports.
(If they weren't officially admitted then it wouldn't be an issue )
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Do we have any links to professional lady-competitors complaining about this problem at all?
Rival weightlifter speaks out on transgender Hubbard's presence at Tokyo 2020
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Old 27.06.2021, 14:34
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Old 27.06.2021, 15:09
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Yes, that's what is being discused in the world of sports.
(If they weren't officially admitted then it wouldn't be an issue )

Rival weightlifter speaks out on transgender Hubbard's presence at Tokyo 2020
In the world of sports. Good. Are you part of that world?

Thanks for the link.
<<Athletes from the United States and Britain are potentially adversely affected but, understandably, they and their National Federations have shown no desire to comment on the controversy.>>
Understandably?!

<<More research should go into this issue, or a separate category must be established for transgender lifters.>>
This. But I think I said that further up somewhere.

I still believe this is a subject for the people concerned to be discussed/decided on. And by concerned I don't mean the other meaning of the word "worried". And as long as the people concerned "understandably, show no desire to comment on the controversy" why on earth should we?

Of course anybody can discuss anything they like but get uptight about it (to get back to the original point I made)? Ah, right, outrage, the most popular hobby of the 21st century .....

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…wow this thread been moved to the International Affairs/Politics, Off-Topic...mainstream try to silence different opinion...
AfaIk your comment is totally wrong.
The video is scary realistic.
Luckily we're still at a point where we can have a laugh about it - how much longer though?
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Old 27.06.2021, 15:12
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…wow this thread been moved to the International Affairs/Politics, Off-Topic...mainstream try to silence different opinion...
This post makes no sense at all. How is moving the thread to a different part if the forum silencing differences of opinion?

Not going to click on a random YouTube link without any idea what it’s about so if that explains the comment so be it.
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Old 27.06.2021, 15:22
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…wow this thread been moved to the International Affairs/Politics, Off-Topic...mainstream try to silence different opinion...
Trolling and/or a misrepresentation of facts.
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In the world of sports. Good. Are you part of that world?
I might have to give it a go now!

It's inspiring to see that men in their 40’s still have a shot at competing in the Olympics
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Old 27.06.2021, 15:56
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Trolling and/or a misrepresentation of facts.
So as soon as someone dares to disagree with the feminist/woke ideology it's trolling. What an excellent and rational point to make (granted, the "rational" part is an assumption of mine based on your #81 above).

Obviously the clip is a caricature. Like every caricature it's somewhat exaggerated to make its point (see OP's intitial caricature if you're unfamiliar with the concept). That just doesn't make it false. Perhaps start your next post with what you consider fact. Or with why you think the clip is false, wrong, or otherwise incorrect.
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AfaIk your comment is totally wrong.
The first part of your post shows that it couldn't be more spot-on, you try to shut everybody up by claiming that only those directly affected are allowed to have an opinion. The entire topic is a societal issue, everybody is part of it, weightlifting is just a minuscule aspect.
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Old 27.06.2021, 16:00
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I might have to give it a go now!

It's inspiring to see that men in their 40’s still have a shot at competing in the Olympics
You're not being sarcastic, talking about the men taking part in the female category, are you?

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Trolling and/or a misrepresentation of facts.
Actually, the video is losing it's trolliness by the day.
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Old 27.06.2021, 16:05
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Actually, the video is losing it's trolliness by the day.
My post was a response to the statement that the poster was being silenced. That just wasn't true.
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Old 27.06.2021, 16:14
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You're not being sarcastic, talking about the men taking part in the female category, are you?
After I typed it made me realise, she will be the oldest ever weighlifter to compete at the Olympic Games!

Weightlifters (male & female) normally peak around 25-26 years of age. What is her secret?
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Old 27.06.2021, 16:18
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Of course anybody can discuss anything they like but get uptight about it (to get back to the original point I made)? Ah, right, outrage, the most popular hobby of the 21st century .....
Outrage has always been around. Not sure why you feel it has to be a bad thing.

It's outrage that got slavery finally banned.

It's outrage that got women talking about sexual abuse in the film industry and ultimately got Weinstein put behind banned.
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Old 27.06.2021, 16:20
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After I typed it made me realise, she will be the oldest ever weighlifter to compete at the Olympic Games!

Weightlifters (male & female) normally peak around 25-26 years of age. What is her secret?
Ah, there you go. With this disadvantage it's all balanced again.
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Old 27.06.2021, 16:29
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…wow this thread been moved to the International Affairs/Politics, Off-Topic...mainstream try to silence different opinion...
I can tell you that no moderator has moved this thread. Either it was originally put here by the OP, or it was moved by our administrator. There's no silencing going on here.
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Old 27.06.2021, 17:13
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There are views and then there's trolling. I personally think some of the current mods encourage trolling and discourage those who would like to engage in rational conversations by thanking trolls and adding their own support to those trolling posts.
…trolls are those who constantly on the forum and make forum them way of life(this not include moderators and active neutral members)…without input of different thinking humans, this will be an association of gossip women at 5 o'clock tea, with bland threads of how a cloth can stop deadly virus...
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.. a real linguistic savagery
That's the best part!
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My post was a response to the statement that the poster was being silenced. That just wasn't true.
Please make it clear going forward what you're referring to, to me it looks like you're talking about the clip. And given the feedback including greenies for my post I'm not the only one.
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Old 27.06.2021, 20:53
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It's outrage that got women talking about sexual abuse in the film industry and ultimately got Weinstein put behind banned.
Dragging him before the judge for the rapes is a good thing.

Destroying his socioeconomic existence by mob rule is not.
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Old 27.06.2021, 20:58
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Dragging him before the judge for the rapes is a good thing.

Destroying his socioeconomic existence by mob rule is not.
I don't agree with mob rule either but as you wrote, he was found guilty by a judge in a court.

I think prison ultimately destroyed his current socioeconomic status but I suppose he has a new social status there.
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