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Old 02.07.2021, 21:15
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Nothing offensive or aggressive at all about it - nor intended to be - you brought up war crimes remember:
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Omg I didn’t even think that simply stating American soldiers, people would take it as a war crime! The crimes I mentioned happened in 1955 and 1995. These were US military guys stationed in the Okinawa-base.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumiko-chan_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995..._rape_incident

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Old 02.07.2021, 21:46
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This thread is the perfect argument why we always need independent courts to assess individual cases. I am actually shocked by the mob reaction here.
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Old 02.07.2021, 21:54
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This thread is the perfect argument why we always need independent courts to assess individual cases. I am actually shocked by the mob reaction here.
Internet outrage. It's the "in" thing to do these days.
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Old 02.07.2021, 22:15
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Omg I didn’t even think that simply stating American soldiers, people would take it as a war crime! The crimes I mentioned happened in 1955 and 1995. These were US military guys stationed in the Okinawa-base.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumiko-chan_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995..._rape_incident

You didn't mention anything about Okinawa or the timeline before this post so how was anyone to know??? OMG indeed..



BTW are you aware that 19000 children have been raped , sexually assaulted and worse by various grooming gangs in the UK - a very significant proportion of them treated that way because they were white and underclass - very often by men of Pakistani origin?
Now consider how the good citzens of Japan would react to that had it been visited on them.
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Old 02.07.2021, 22:46
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I can’t comment on a link I can’t read further than the headlines.
And- I’m out of this thread. Way too many negative vibes.
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Old 03.07.2021, 00:08
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I can’t comment on a link I can’t read further than the headlines.
There's no paywall there - you can read the full article so I guess it's not that you can't read further but choose not to.

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And- I’m out of this thread. Way too many negative vibes.
Of course - run away when evidence is presented that challenges your world view.
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These kinds of posts got you deleted the first time. Please stop with insults and mudslinging.
Your threats on the other hand are completely in order?

This is at least the second time you spew this kind of threat in an effort to blackmail a poster with
an opinion you disagree with into silence. You may think it's conducive to a healthy forum but it's not.

Even you are bound by and subject to the forum rules. When will you stop?
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Your ability to understand is sadly lacking. If you wanted to insult me I'd prefer you do so openly.
I thought the insult was clear.
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which is silly cos the English and the Irish are a different culture not a different rac.
No such thing as race. There is no genetic concept of race. It's all culture really. My wife is culturaly British, but not born there (naturlised now).

I got the all clear from a "woke" friend. I don't like the cultural attitude of some Muslims living in Pakistan towards women. I say some, because one of my friends is Pakistani born and bred, and very decent to his mum, wife and daughters, and a devout Muslim.
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No such thing as race. There is no genetic concept of race. It's all culture really. My wife is culturaly British, but not born there (naturlised now).

I got the all clear from a "woke" friend. I don't like the cultural attitude of some Muslims living in Pakistan towards women. I say some, because one of my friends is Pakistani born and bred, and very decent to his mum, wife and daughters, and a devout Muslim.
I remember a comment from the great American boxing historian Bert Sugar, talking about the black world champion boxer Joe Louis ..‘he is a credit to his race…the human race ‘
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BTW are you aware that 19000 children have been raped , sexually assaulted and worse by various grooming gangs in the UK
Grooming gangs is kind of polite ‘media speak’ what they really are, which is paedophiles.
A bit like when the media reports that people have ‘lost their life’ in terrorist attacks, when really they’ve been murdered.
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Old 03.07.2021, 08:27
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No such thing as race. There is no genetic concept of race.
This is so daft that I can scarcely believe it - I'm a pasty faced , lobster red or jelly fish coloured Irish person with wonky teeth and big ears because of my genes not because of any culture...

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It's all culture really. My wife is culturaly British, but not born there (naturlised now).
That's behaviour and I completely agree with you - Thomas Sowell says much the same - the problem with all cultures is learned not innate - but to pretend that it doesn't exist is stupidity.

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I got the all clear from a "woke" friend. I don't like the cultural attitude of some Muslims living in Pakistan towards women. I say some, because one of my friends is Pakistani born and bred, and very decent to his mum, wife and daughters, and a devout Muslim.
Of course there are great people from all crowds, colours etc. I always advocate the use of statistics and data to inform decisions.
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Old 03.07.2021, 08:29
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Grooming gangs is kind of polite ‘media speak’ what they really are, which is paedophiles.
Difficult to say with certainty that it applies to all but a significant proportion are certainly.

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A bit like when the media reports that people have ‘lost their life’ in terrorist attacks, when really they’ve been murdered.
Of course!
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I am actually shocked by the mob reaction here.
I am more shocked at the people pretending that older ''boys'' (16,18,22,23) plying a 13 year old girl with drugs before raping and murdering her is somehow normal behaviour
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I am more shocked at the people pretending that older ''boys'' (16,18,22,23) plying a 13 year old girl with drugs before raping and murdering her is somehow normal behaviour
No one is saying that.
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The worst part is that there are some ultra-left "woke" people who are standing with this guy and saying he comes from a different culture and we should be all more understanding.

Events (and people) like this just leave me speechless..
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I am shocked that people are actually arguing that enabling drug use and sexually assaulting a 13 year old child is somehow defensible.....
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No one said it is correct so do not twist words. Some posters may have noted that the young ages of the perpetrators (16 and 18) and tried to understand the mind set of what happened. Lawyers will do the same thing. Presenting those ideas is part of analyzing a situation. However, no one said what happened is defensible.

This is what really pisses me off about the present attitude on this forum. Posters are being empowered by a mod to twist words instead of being asked to stick to the facts. It’s why I’m vocal because I care too much for this forum to see it become mouthpiece for falsehoods.
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I am more shocked at the people pretending that older ''boys'' (16,18,22,23) plying a 13 year old girl with drugs before raping and murdering her is somehow normal behaviour
Bullshit
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No one said it is correct so do not twist words. Some posters may have noted that the young ages of the perpetrators (16 and 18) and tried to understand the mind set of what happened. Lawyers will do the same thing. Presenting those ideas is part of analyzing a situation. However, no one said what happened is defensible.
Nobody has said it was defensible, but there has been a level of relativization and scraping around at details which I am sure we would not have seen if the suspects had been Austrians. IMHO this reflects an underlying insecurity in many of us that we cannot and may not speak ill of certain groups and all those who do so are racists. We have seen people on this thread trying to say that anybody who criticizes these individuals is attacking all Afghans. This would be like saying that anybody who criticizes Brevik hates all Norwegians.
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Nobody has said it was defensible, but there has been a level of relativization and scraping around at details which I am sure we would not have seen if the suspects had been Austrians. IMHO this reflects an underlying insecurity in many of us that we cannot and may not speak ill of certain groups and all those who do so are racists. We have seen people on this thread trying to say that anybody who criticizes these individuals is attacking all Afghans. This would be like saying that anybody who criticizes Brevik hates all Norwegians.
I'm not following you but I'm trying. The title of this thread is "refugees not being deported." If I understand correctly, I believe the issue here is why those Afghans weren't sent back beforehand as they have criminal records. In the article, I don't recall any statement clarifying that issue.

You wrote two sentences that are contradictory of each other:

IMHO this reflects an underlying insecurity in many of us that we cannot and may not speak ill of certain groups and all those who do so are racists. We have seen people on this thread trying to say that anybody who criticizes these individuals is attacking all Afghans.

It is dangerous and possibly racist to speak ill of certain groups but certainly not of individuals.
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