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The British however never would. Nooooo, neever!
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Speaking of refugees, when my family hosted 3 Bosnian families in our own apartment for about a year, there were the 3 wifes and 5 children. The husbands stayed in what became the sieged Sarajevo to defend their homes.

25 years old males with Iphones are not refugees. Women and children are.
I'm all for equal rights and duties, there's no reason women shouldn't or can't fight. Therefore only children are.
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Probably because you choose to keep your head in the sand

I've Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe's Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
Have you ever spoken to Afghan refugees? Heard their stories? Shared conversations? Afghanistan is a country made up of 7 ethnic groups and are tribal. Their Muslim faith is not usually fundamentalist but depending on the region and the ruling government of that region, you’ll see different degrees of it. By putting all Afghans into the same pot, you’re ignoring the essence and culture of the country.

Unfortunately, Afghanistan has been a country invaded and stoked by civil war for decades. It’s full of corruption and loyalty can switch easily. The Americans failed to implement a credible and reliable government due to their lack of understanding of the nation and its cultures. ANA was corrupt and loyalties were weak. Much of the money poured in from the US was used for fraud and corruption. Many Afghans lost hope and surrendered to the Afghan Taliban. Dying for a lost cause when family livelihoods are at stake is a poor option.

So call me uninformed if you wish, but I’ve based my opinions on reading articles, watching the news and conversations with Afghans themselves.

Be ready to see another wave of Afghans coming into Switzerland. It, again, will mostly be men as these journeys for single women are far more dangerous unless they are protected. I agree that’s not fair and shows what a patriarchal society Afghanistan is.
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Who’s have thought the Taliban would be better behaved and create a better impression than #BLM?
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Have you ever spoken to Afghan refugees? Heard their stories? Shared conversations?
Sure, was friends with a few and went to school with many of them. I'll never forget when some of them were cheering on 9/11 and the (one!) American guy in the entire school went nuts and tried to fight them all
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Sure, was friends with a few and went to school with many of them. I'll never forget when some of them were cheering on 9/11 and the (one!) American guy in the entire school went nuts and tried to fight them all
Then we’ve had completely different experiences which is why we have different opinions. It explains your aversion towards the country.
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The British however never would. Nooooo, neever!
Of course the British would. That goes without saying -which is why it I didn't say it.

I had Swiss on my mind as I read in the news today that the Taliban leaders have flown to Afghanistan from their safe haven in Qatar - you know, the country which managed to 'bid' successfully for the World Cup 2020 under the auspices of Herr Sepp Blatter...
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Be ready to see another wave of Afghans coming into Switzerland. It, again, will mostly be men
I am afraid you are right about that one. Hopefully they will be brought back.

This young Afghan in front of the airport yesterday was harassing a mother and a child until the American soldier put an automatic weapon in his face.



And he managed to get on a flight out of Kabul as a refugee, out of 640 people onboard probably 550 were young men



No doubt he will show up in Europe as a 16 years old boy...
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Then we’ve had completely different experiences which is why we have different opinions. It explains your aversion towards the country.
That's why we have surveys - to provide representation of the entire country - you just choose to ignore any evidence (in this case overwhelming) which doesn't go along with your view.
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Then we’ve had completely different experiences which is why we have different opinions. It explains your aversion towards the country.
You probably talked more to the older generations who were happy to have asylum; I grew up with the ungrateful second generation
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That's why we have surveys - to provide representation of the entire country - you just choose to ignore any evidence (in this case overwhelming) which doesn't go along with your view.
Afghanistan: Gender Imbalances: In Afghanistan the survey respondents were disproportionately male.
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You probably talked more to the older generations who were happy to have asylum; I grew up with the ungrateful second generation
My students are all around 20 and are very grateful to be here.
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That's why we have surveys - to provide representation of the entire country - you just choose to ignore any evidence (in this case overwhelming) which doesn't go along with your view.
My research is based on more evidence than a few questionable surveys.
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

Afghanistan 1960s:



Did these women all say they had a terrible time in the 60s and their daughters say it is so much better under the Taliban and it's warped interpretation of Sharia law?

The Koran has been around for a long time - certainly a lot longer that seventy years or or so since this photo was taken.

Do you really think most Afghans are pro-Taliban?
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

Clarissa Ward is taking the p1ss today, wearing lipstick and eyeshadow.
You’d have thought she’d have a bit more common sense.

Note: she’s the one who said the Taliban were chanting “Death to America” but were quite friendly with it.

I guess it’s privilege of being the CNN reporter.
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Do you really think most Afghans are pro-Taliban?
No we don't think, we know it for a fact after seeing how the Taliban were greeted and welcome back in Afghanistan
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No we don't think, we know it for a fact after seeing how the Taliban were greeted and welcome back in Afghanistan
It truly pains me to see the misconceptions that a few posters have in their continuance on generalizing the Afghanistan nation.

EF: Where propaganda and racism are allowed to flourish.

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It truly pains me to see the misconceptions that a few posters have in their continuance on generalizing the Afghanistan nation.

EF: Where propaganda and racism are allowed to flourish.
You're simply unable to accept facts :
  • They had all the weapons
  • They had overwhelming numbers
  • They gave up in a week
They simply don't believe in your values , your culture and very likely in your ability to exist outside Islam.
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Of course the British would. That goes without saying -which is why it I didn't say it.

I had Swiss on my mind as I read in the news today that the Taliban leaders have flown to Afghanistan from their safe haven in Qatar - you know, the country which managed to 'bid' successfully for the World Cup 2020 under the auspices of Herr Sepp Blatter...
LOL, you should talk with Blatter about your complaints. Immediately.
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Oh boy ...

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About 5,000 to 10,000 Americans are still "near Kabul," Pentagon estimates
From CNN's Ellie Kaufman

There are approximately 5,000 to 10,000 Americans "near Kabul" in Afghanistan, Pentagon press secretary John Kirby said during an interview with CNN’s John Berman on New Day.

“We think there are certainly thousands of Americans. We don’t have an exact count. I would say somewhere best guess between 5 and 10,000 near Kabul,” Kirby said.

Kirby said Americans in Kabul no longer need to shelter in place. The State Department put out a message “advising those Americans about how to queue up and get to the airport,” Kirby said.

“They can begin movement to the airport for processing flights out,” he added.
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