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Local people have remarked that they can't understand what the Taliban fighters are saying as they definitely aren't speaking any of the local languages.
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Old 21.08.2021, 13:39
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Local people have remarked that they can't understand what the Taliban fighters are saying as they definitely aren't speaking any of the local languages.
There are widespread protests now against the Taliban.

The Taliban managed to keep the lid on things during their rule from 1996 to 2001 but this time after almost twenty years of improving the quality of life in the cities they may meet more determined resistance.

How many Afghans have the stomach for civil war I have no clue, need to keep a close eye on how the situation develops?
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There are widespread protests now against the Taliban.

The Taliban managed to keep the lid on things during their rule from 1996 to 2001 but this time after almost twenty years of improving the quality of life in the cities they may meet more determined resistance.

How many Afghans have the stomach for civil war I have no clue, need to keep a close eye on how the situation develops?
That's why as a first thing, they've started to collect all the weapons from civilians, "because it's safe now".

They've done their homework this time.

Make no mistake, these guys haven't survived twenty years of warfare by the most powerful, most advanced army in the world to just go and fold after a week of protests.

Worst thing: they now have billions worth of US-taxpayer-paid advanced weapons (though they can probably hardly use the more advanced ones - but apparently Chinese agents are already on the ground to lend them a hand (or swap them for a couple of more AK47s).

And if you need some know-how on how to mow down a protest or suppress a cvil rights movement, who're you gonna call?
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Old 21.08.2021, 22:29
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That's why as a first thing, they've started to collect all the weapons from civilians, "because it's safe now".

They've done their homework this time.

Make no mistake, these guys haven't survived twenty years of warfare by the most powerful, most advanced army in the world to just go and fold after a week of protests.

Worst thing: they now have billions worth of US-taxpayer-paid advanced weapons (though they can probably hardly use the more advanced ones - but apparently Chinese agents are already on the ground to lend them a hand (or swap them for a couple of more AK47s).

And if you need some know-how on how to mow down a protest or suppress a cvil rights movement, who're you gonna call?
good point about "they can probably hardly use the more advanced ones", after the Russians left the media was full of pictures of the Taliban driving around in Soviet tanks but I have yet to see the Taliban actually using any of the US weapons.
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Old 21.08.2021, 22:34
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

One potentially interesting twist in the Taliban takeover of the country is the organizing of a resistance group coming from the north of the country.

A YouTube video from an Indian news/commentary channel, August 21st.

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good point about "they can probably hardly use the more advanced ones", after the Russians left the media was full of pictures of the Taliban driving around in Soviet tanks but I have yet to see the Taliban actually using any of the US weapons.
Let's just hope they don't forcefully convert Afghan soldiers, because the weapons were taken from the Afghan soldiers. And meanwhile, all these US defense contractors have profited immensely from this war.
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And if you need some know-how on how to mow down a protest or suppress a cvil rights movement, who're you gonna call?

The US National Guard?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
Although they have played on both sides of the civil rights struggle:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/f...us/5319853002/
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Old 21.08.2021, 23:43
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That's why as a first thing, they've started to collect all the weapons from civilians, "because it's safe now".

They've done their homework this time.

Make no mistake, these guys haven't survived twenty years of warfare by the most powerful, most advanced army in the world to just go and fold after a week of protests.

Worst thing: they now have billions worth of US-taxpayer-paid advanced weapons (though they can probably hardly use the more advanced ones - but apparently Chinese agents are already on the ground to lend them a hand (or swap them for a couple of more AK47s).

And if you need some know-how on how to mow down a protest or suppress a cvil rights movement, who're you gonna call?
"they've started to collect all the weapons from civilians" sounds good but I do not know how practical that is.

There are ca. 40 million people so how many millions have weapons to be collected and how long will that take.
There is no weapons registry so no guarantee they will collect all of them.
Where will they put the collected weapons safely so they do not get stolen?

At one time there was a maximum of a quarter of a million allied and US soldiers in the country so now there must be a lot of unguarded bases full of weapons that people could collect and bury somewhere, in case, they ever got unhappy with the Taliban.
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Old 22.08.2021, 15:41
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

One side effect is the media practically ignored Trump's rally in Alabama last night, even Fox News only had a link to the video with no comments.

Like many nations, China is concerned about the risk of terrorism from a Taliban-led Afghanistan. Beijing has repeatedly told the Taliban that the country cannot become a breeding ground for militants to launch attacks in Xinjiang.

A more proximate threat may be the spillover of militancy into Pakistan and Central Asia.
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

When Biden is incapable, Putin is happy to fill in the gap

"In the view of the worsening situation in the Kabul international airport and the inability of the Western powers to take their citizens and servicemen out—not to mention the Afghan nationals and their family members who served them over the past years—we are ready to help them out. To prevent worsening of the humanitarian situation in Afghanistan, we are ready to provide services of the Russian civil aviation sector to carry any number of the Afghan citizens, including women and children, from Kabul to any foreign country willing to accept and settle them,” Zakharova said during the ministry’s regular press briefing.

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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

The entire money-laundering rules originate from, and are predominantly driven by, the US. Someone powerful enough to influence US foreign policy to an extent to have the US military invade Afghanistan, would have a much easier time influencing international money-laundering policies instead.

Assange's claim doesn't appear to make sense.
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When Biden is incapable, Putin is happy to fill in the gap

"In the view of the worsening situation in the Kabul international airport and the inability of the Western powers to take their citizens and servicemen out—not to mention the Afghan nationals and their family members who served them over the past years—we are ready to help them out. To prevent worsening of the humanitarian situation in Afghanistan, we are ready to provide services of the Russian civil aviation sector to carry any number of the Afghan citizens, including women and children, from Kabul to any foreign country willing to accept and settle them,” Zakharova said during the ministry’s regular press briefing.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...abul-airliners
The bet here is that the West will refuse with little cries of horror. And will do anything to hide whatever help Russia already provides, such as providing fuel to Uzbekistan (definite) and onward landing slots in Russia (unclear so far).

Then again, Zakharova is good at trolling the West. She is the yin to Lavrov's Yang. Watch it when she steps forward.
I had not notice, but some angles she looks spookily like Ursula "because daughter of" von der Leyen; though unlike von der Leyen, Zakharova is not past the Peter point.



And meanwhile, we get rewarmed Kirby at Defense for Obama 2.5, and Ned "this is not an evacuation" Price at State. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x825olp
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When Biden is incapable, Putin is happy to fill in the gap

"In the view of the worsening situation in the Kabul international airport and the inability of the Western powers to take their citizens and servicemen out—not to mention the Afghan nationals and their family members who served them over the past years—we are ready to help them out. To prevent worsening of the humanitarian situation in Afghanistan, we are ready to provide services of the Russian civil aviation sector to carry any number of the Afghan citizens, including women and children, from Kabul to any foreign country willing to accept and settle them,” Zakharova said during the ministry’s regular press briefing.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...abul-airliners
I doubt the Taliban will allow Russian aircraft to land in case they are full of heavily armed little green men ready to try to take over again.

The whole situation is weird, we know very little about what is happening on the ground.

Must be hundreds of people working in the airport, are they Afghans or foreign? Do they go home to Kabul every night or sleep in the airport?
Will they stay after the evacuation and if not who will provide the key services like air traffic control.
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I doubt the Taliban will allow Russian aircraft to land in case they are full of heavily armed little green men ready to try to take over again.

The whole situation is weird, we know very little about what is happening on the ground.

Must be hundreds of people working in the airport, are they Afghans or foreign? Do they go home to Kabul every night or sleep in the airport?
Will they stay after the evacuation and if not who will provide the key services like air traffic control.
The Russians and Chinese still have their embassies in Kabul, they simply said no need to evacuate. They seem to be on top of the situation regarding the government change, unlike Biden's administration

There is no secured road leading to the airport, there has never been. All the trips from the airport to the US embassy were done by helicopters, never by road.

There is no more ATC services for the whole Afghanistan, their airspace is uncontrolled. The only Tower services are done by the US military when a plane is inbound
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"In the view of the worsening situation in the Kabul international airport and the inability of the Western powers to take their citizens and servicemen out—not to mention the Afghan nationals and their family members who served them over the past years—we are ready to help them out. To prevent worsening of the humanitarian situation in Afghanistan, we are ready to provide services of the Russian civil aviation sector to carry any number of the Afghan citizens, including women and children, from Kabul to any foreign country willing to accept and settle them,” Zakharova said during the ministry’s regular press briefing.
He forgot to mention Russia is already airlifting mostly Iraqis to Belarus who are then then driven to the Lithuanian and Polish border.
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He forgot to mention Russia is already airlifting mostly Iraqis to Belarus who are then then driven to the Lithuanian and Polish border.
The hot potato concept of the EU quotas is bening renegotiated as we speak - Austria just said they are taking nobody.

CZ have packed 3 planes already I think.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/austria...ghans/46886698
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When Biden is incapable, Putin is happy to fill in the gap

"In the view of the worsening situation in the Kabul international airport and the inability of the Western powers to take their citizens and servicemen out—not to mention the Afghan nationals and their family members who served them over the past years—we are ready to help them out. To prevent worsening of the humanitarian situation in Afghanistan, we are ready to provide services of the Russian civil aviation sector to carry any number of the Afghan citizens, including women and children, from Kabul to any foreign country willing to accept and settle them,” Zakharova said during the ministry’s regular press briefing.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...abul-airliners
Wait a min, haven't USSR/Russia helped Afghanistan out in the 1980s?

The funny part is that they're offering the planes to move people and forget about the hot potato of refugees as soon as they leave the plane.
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

The ultimate insult they call it. Apparently featured in the manipulated 1945 Iwo Jima image are the newly established "Badri 313" commandos - a Taliban special forces unit. Of course, they are sporting special ops gear, including night vision goggles, which was ultimately paid for by US taxpayers.



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He forgot to mention Russia is already airlifting mostly Iraqis to Belarus who are then then driven to the Lithuanian and Polish border.
And rightfully so, the refugees need to be hosted by the countries that created them in the first place. I heard George W has quite a bit of a ranch...
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The hot potato concept of the EU quotas is bening renegotiated as we speak - Austria just said they are taking nobody.

CZ have packed 3 planes already I think.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/austria...ghans/46886698
Can't compare the two though. Austria is not a NATO member and has a well understood role within Europe. It barely sent anyone to Afghanistan, and effectively only as observers. So it does not have any Afghan translator/"partner" of whatever ilk to extract, which is the only group any of the Western invaders has agreed to help.
Switzerland is in the same situation, by the way. No Kurz politics, but it does not owe Afghan collaborators anything.

For Czechia, like most Eastern European countries, Afghanistan was the opportunity to prove themselves to NATO, having all but missed out on the turkey shoots and dismemberment of Yugoslavia. Specifically, given the 9/11 background, this was the perfect opportunity to suck up to the US (as can also be contrasted with their staying out of the Western European-instigated turkey shoots and dismemberment of Libya). So they went in heavy in Afghanistan, and stayed long, upping their participation when this or that US president decided to escalate (as in the Obama surge). This means they took on a lot of local partners, and now extract and continue to pay they must. Good if they do.

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