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Old 15.08.2021, 19:41
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

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And? How does that justify any of the US atrocities?
Iíll bite. What US atrocities?
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Old 15.08.2021, 20:01
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

Kabul expected to surrender to the Taliban tonight, according to Swiss news
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Old 15.08.2021, 20:03
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Kabul expected to surrender to the Taliban tonight, according to Swiss news
Kabul has already surrendered as it's "tonight" in Kabul
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Old 15.08.2021, 20:22
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

Itís game over and now the Taliban can re-arm from the Russian and Chinese stuff to the NATO arms that should have been used by the Afghan army against them.
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Old 15.08.2021, 20:30
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Kabul has already surrendered as it's "tonight" in Kabul
Well at 19.30h Swiss time it had not happened yet.
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Old 15.08.2021, 20:42
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Iíll bite. What US atrocities?
Need to narrow your question down a tad otherwise you will hit the word count limit.
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

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Iíll bite. What US atrocities?
All your biting can't replace your reading.
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

"Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?"

Did actually anyone believe the the Yankees have occupied Afghanistan and tore it apart with yet another civil war for the Afghans's good?
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

Just my 2 rappens:-

History will always repeat itself.

Empires will always rise and fall.

People in power will always do what they want to do no matter how right or wrong is their intention.

The height of arrogance is when one party dictates how the other party should live their life when they themselves are the worst role models.

Change starts with oneself.

Iíve finally realised that most things are out of my control so not worth taxing my brains on most things and concentrate on the matters within my control or influence.
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Old 15.08.2021, 22:38
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Just my 2 rappens:-
I enjoyed your post but try telling that to one of the Afghan refugees standing in front of you at Migros.
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Old 15.08.2021, 22:43
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Iíve finally realised that most things are out of my control so not worth taxing my brains on most things and concentrate on the matters within my control or influence.
Sooo, you came to this thread to tell us that you don't care about the subject of the thread?
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Old 15.08.2021, 23:41
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

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I enjoyed your post but try telling that to one of the Afghan refugees standing in front of you at Migros.


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Sooo, you came to this thread to tell us that you don't care about the subject of the thread?
Aren't you glad you know?
I would have expected to read the names/source of each quote as I've heard them all before but I'm not good at keeping names.
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I enjoyed your post but try telling that to one of the Afghan refugees standing in front of you at Migros.
If she was in Afghanistan then all I could do is pray for her but now that she is in Switzerland and front of me, I just need to help her in the best way I can based on my capabilities.

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Sooo, you came to this thread to tell us that you don't care about the subject of the thread?
I care about humans in general and not just Afghans, but I’m being “realistic” in what I could do except to pray for them. Between now and in months time, this thread may reach 100 with armchair analysts and not making any difference to the Afghans lives. Instead of filling up threads, I would spend that time to change myself for the better, and thus starting the change with myself.

I don’t think petitioning MP’s or lobbying will make any difference as governments don’t really have “real power” and they will do what their masters tell them to do.

I know there will be a lot of criticism from the old and new established EFrs, but that will just be more waste of their time. If anyone truely want to help, then go directly go to the place and make a difference if you can, but without neglecting the people close to you who really depend on you.

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Old 16.08.2021, 01:12
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

I believe the Taliban prayed tooÖ to win the war and rule the country.

I guess their prayers were answered.
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

Oh, I forgot to add that donít believe everything you read on the media.
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Old 16.08.2021, 07:02
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

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How does that justify any of the US atrocities?
I (or anyone else) did this where ?

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Old 16.08.2021, 07:06
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

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If she was in Afghanistan then all I could do is pray for her but now that she is in Switzerland and front of me, I just need to help her in the best way I can based on my capabilities.

I care about humans in general and not just Afghans, but I’m being “realistic” in what I could do except to pray for them. Between now and in months time, this thread may reach 100 with armchair analysts and not making any difference to the Afghans lives. Instead of filling up threads, I would spend that time to change myself for the better, and thus starting the change with myself.

I don’t think petitioning MP’s or lobbying will make any difference as governments don’t really have “real power” and they will do what their masters tell them to do.

I know there will be a lot of criticism from the old and new established EFrs, but that will just be more waste of their time. If anyone truely want to help, then go directly go to the place and make a difference if you can, but without neglecting the people close to you who really depend on you.
What a load of waffley and awkward nonsense. Show us some tangible evidence of you really helping people, otherwise it's as much an armchair analysis/philosophising exercise as anyone else's posts. If an Afghan refugee has managed to find asylum in Switzerland and is 'in the supermarket queue in front of us' then we can already consider that they have been helped immeasurably.

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Oh, I forgot to add that don’t believe everything you read on the media.
Will you do us all a huge favour and tell us which articles are true and false? Maybe the news would be better if we can filter it through you first so we know what is real and what isn't.
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Old 16.08.2021, 09:08
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

I wonder how well the Taliban will actually run Afghanistan?

In recent years it was a relatively successful country with lots of new buildings, commercial activity, regular food supplies, and electricity supply and so.

If the Taliban turn the clock back 2,000 years then it will lead to a lot of unhappiness amongst the citizenry that will make the regime ever more brutal.

Maybe they will learn a lesson from the Iran theocracy that runs relatively well.
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Old 16.08.2021, 09:11
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I wonder how well the Taliban will actually run Afghanistan?

In recent years it was a relatively successful country with lots of new buildings, commercial activity, regular food supplies, and electricity supply and so.

If the Taliban turn the clock back 2,000 years then it will lead to a lot of unhappiness amongst the citizenry that will make the regime ever more brutal.

Maybe they will learn a lesson from the Iran theocracy that runs relatively well.
Was this post was largely rhetorical, or do you really wonder if the Taliban will form a good and stable government? I can't see any outcome where it isn't a brutally oppressive regime for the forseeable future.
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Old 16.08.2021, 10:16
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I wonder how well the Taliban will actually run Afghanistan?

In recent years it was a relatively successful country with lots of new buildings, commercial activity, regular food supplies, and electricity supply and so.

If the Taliban turn the clock back 2,000 years then it will lead to a lot of unhappiness amongst the citizenry that will make the regime ever more brutal.

Maybe they will learn a lesson from the Iran theocracy that runs relatively well.
I reckon after the me too movement, they will have recognisd that women are to be respected and will push hard for women's rights and become a beacon for feminism.
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