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Old 16.08.2021, 19:44
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

It is mind-boggling how all the military and intelligence experts of all the coalition troops misjudged the military capability of the Afghan forces so terribly. How is this possible? Or did they know and not tell? Sounds also inconceivable.

All the generals, Bush's, Obama's, Trump's, Biden's - really?

Btw, did we find the Iraq WMD yet?
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Old 16.08.2021, 19:52
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You’re stereotyping and branding a whole race simply because of a few bad apples. That’s racism, Parnell.
Didn't you read the last couple of posts - 99% of Muslims in Afghanistan in 2016 support Sharia as the law of the land - isn't 99% rather more than a few apples (I didn't say anything about good or bad - that's on you) ?

Nevermind the fact that marton thinks that Islam is a couple hundred years behind Christianity.

You think that you can simply bring a people here and have them foresake their beliefs and ethics - as various atrocities around Europe have shown - it's you who live in delusion and visit that delusion's consequences upon children in our societies.
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Old 16.08.2021, 19:57
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

Thinking about it, I would not be surprised if SecDef Austin were to offer his resignation shortly. Biden needs to be able to say withdrawal was the only viable option, but it was poorly prepared. Both by the former guy's administration and the current leadership. Biden needs to own this f--- up, and be self-critical, but also distance himself from the ops part.

I guess "nation building" is officially over.

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Old 16.08.2021, 19:58
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And the last witch to be executed in Europe (also from bible-based Christian laws) was a mere 239 years ago.
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Can you quote a specific scripture (Chapter/Verse) which permits Christians to execute alleged witches ?
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Old 16.08.2021, 19:59
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It is mind-boggling how all the military and intelligence experts of all the coalition troops misjudged the military capability of the Afghan forces so terribly. How is this possible? Or did they know and not tell? Sounds also inconceivable.

All the generals, Bush's, Obama's, Trump's, Biden's - really?

Btw, did we find the Iraq WMD yet?
Anatol Lieven has a useful piece on this:
Opposing Afghan factions have long negotiated arrangements to stop fighting — something the U.S. either failed to understand or chose to ignore.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ollapse-504977
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:02
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Thinking about it, I would not be surprised if SecDef Austin were to offer his resignation shortly. Biden needs to be able to say withdrawal was the only viable option, but it was poorly prepared. Both by the former guy's administration and the current leadership. Biden needs to own this f--- up, and be self-critical, but also distance himself from the ops part.

I guess "nation building" is officially over.
Actually, Austin stood by his superiors and is saving diplomats' arses right now.
The one who should be fired is Anthony Blinken. In fact, his incompetence has been repeatedly on display since the Alaska debacle, mismanaging the lead-in to the Biden-Putin meeting and more.
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:03
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Allow me to illustrate
I thought you didn't understand. You've just confirmed it.
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Now while I'm absolutely in favour of your ability to go there I do not wish for that culture to come here -
They probably think the same thing about the Swiss in Thailand and elsewhere in Asia.
The number of stories you read about Swiss paedophiles in Asia makes you wonder why the Asian countries don't ban the Swiss completely.

But of course it's a small number - that make news - just like the Afghans in the story to which you provided a link.
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:05
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Didn't you read the last couple of posts - 99% of Muslims in Afghanistan in 2016 support Sharia as the law of the land - isn't 99% rather more than a few apples (I didn't say anything about good or bad - that's on you) ?

Nevermind the fact that marton thinks that Islam is a couple hundred years behind Christianity.

You think that you can simply bring a people here and have them foresake their beliefs and ethics - as various atrocities around Europe have shown - it's you who live in delusion and visit that delusion's consequences upon children in our societies.
Christianity started officially 2,021 years ago.
Islam started in the 7th century.

That is a difference of more than a couple of hundred years, check it out with your abacus.
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Re: Afghanistan: misplaced trust in USA evident?

CNN with another “mostly peaceful” moment

https://twitter.com/sophiabfisher/st...77156913139716
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:09
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Actually, Austin stood by his superiors and is saving diplomats' arses right now.
The one who should be fired is Anthony Blinken. In fact, his incompetence has been repeatedly on display since the Alaska debacle, mismanaging the lead-in to the Biden-Putin meeting and more.
Maybe, but too high profile.
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:11
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Can you quote a specific scripture (Chapter/Verse) which permits Christians to execute alleged witches ?
Deuteronomy 18.
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:16
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CNN with another “mostly peaceful” moment

https://twitter.com/sophiabfisher/st...77156913139716
The (American female) reporter said "They were chanting 'Death to America' but they seemed utterly friendly at the same time.
She's standing amongst them.

Seems like a bit of a show for the Western cameras. I'm really quite surprised you can't see that.
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Christianity started officially 2,021 years ago.
Islam started in the 7th century.

That is a difference of more than a couple of hundred years, check it out with your abacus.
So they’ve only had 1400 years to catch up with Christianity.
At the rate they are evolving, they’ll need another 1400.
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The (American female) reporter said "They were chanting 'Death to America' but they seemed utterly friendly at the same time.
She's standing amongst them.

Seems like a bit of a show for the Western cameras. I'm really quite surprised you can't see that.
Friendly death threats? Seriously?
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:24
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Friendly death threats? Seriously?
That's what the American female reporter said, in your link.
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Old 16.08.2021, 20:28
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But of course it's a small number - that make news - just like the Afghans in the story to which you provided a link.
99% is a small number...
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Can you quote a specific scripture (Chapter/Verse) which permits Christians to execute alleged witches ?
From around 1517 to ca. 1700 it was the churches (both Protestant and Catholic) who tried and burnt witches.

People sometimes quote Exodus 22:18, and Galatians 5:19, as well as Deuteronomy 18:10 to justify the practice.
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Deuteronomy 18.
Nope and you failed to quote it.
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99% is a small number...
99% of all Afghans are rapists?
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From around 1517 to ca. 1700 it was the churches (both Protestant and Catholic) who tried and burnt witches.

People sometimes quote Exodus 22:18, and Galatians 5:19, as well as Deuteronomy 18:10 to justify the practice.
In fairness Exodus 22:18 seems pretty clear - chapeau :
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