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komso, you wouldn't understand anyhow So, go powder your nose dear and try to come back with some real subject matter
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Re: Where is EU headed?

scrabblegrey, yesss ) but, depends also how we look into this ...I'll just cite one thing, which I still cant digest and gives me nausea

For ex did you notice how it was swept under the rug the whole NSA&friends spying on the german chancelliere ? and the whole german gov?

https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-...ort/a-57721901
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...0PI2AD20150709

This should've been the biggest scandal of-all-time something like the GOAT in the politixxx)) but for some reason , there was such an omerta on it and the general public - remember how they consider themselves "informed" and all that (but actually you're informed only what they fed you with their tiny apotheke-syrup-spoons)
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It is only 20 years that the Common Market is reality, she has been in power for the previous 15 years only, Germany had no scandal whatsoever that hinted at governance problem. Exception of some minor issues with VW, with Deutsche Bank, with Siemens ... even ze Germans are starting to recognize there is something smelly in their country!
let's not forget the Wirecard fraud which when raised to the regulator, instead of, you know investigating and regulating, the regulator instead decided to file criminal complaints against the journalists who uncovered the fraud to silence them.

EDIT: oh, i forgot they also banned short selling Wirecard to prevent the market mechanisms from working to fix the problem itself.
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let's not forget the Wirecard fraud which when raised to the regulator, instead of, you know investigating and regulating, the regulator instead decided to file criminal complaints against the journalists who uncovered the fraud to silence them.

EDIT: oh, i forgot they also banned short selling Wirecard to prevent the market mechanisms from working to fix the problem itself.
I remember reading a German article (ca. 2016/2017 ... or even earlier) about Merkel govt punishing some key members of the Transport Authority (or something similar) after the Diesel scandal. The punishment was to have them out of the transport authority, immediately. They were in fact transferred to the authority supervising financial matters, with equal or higher roles. Apologizes for not being able to provide details or names (I will try to figure them out from my holiday-office imperial chair ).
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komso, you wouldn't understand anyhow So, go powder your nose dear and try to come back with some real subject matter
That's what I thought. So nothing to back up, just bullshit.
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Oh mein Gott, Dieselgate

I remember that summer )) Can you imagine.. this big corp has cheated with their software so it shows something that's totally false And... remember , all those years how we've been branwashed by "numbers" "stats" "certified docs" how diesel is polluting less and all that c**p talk When I think of how an individal if they decide to forge docs and cheat how after there's no pardon and we avoid by all means people like that ) uhh

Remember heated discussions with friends about it ?
remember how so many companies chose to rent-lease buy diesel because of that ... ? anyhow the big corp. they got caught we heard a little about it and then , as usual , sweep it under the carpet

The worse: it's not just this ..the same goes for pandemies,pharma, food, water...
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Re: Where is EU headed?

Reading this thread, I've just thought of what could get England to rejoin the EU -systematic corruption.
The poms have years of experience doing back-handers with the middle east and washing Russian and eastern-european money.
The germans know how to construct a corrupt beaurocracy.
Boris, a liar and a cheat, is the obvious guy to front the operation.
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It was so so funny when Merkel said..how she found about the Dieselgate from the papers ))))) so, the top 3 super power in the world, her cabinet and all the intelligence agencies, experts, assistants,consultants, havent informed her how that big auto comp was cheating or how it's about to be revealed, poor Merkel she had to open the paper and find out

At the moment, finally this huge Pegasus scandal is comming out ..but it will be drown with the standard covid-flying-circus

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...I8toGIQBX2dZoA
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The "cowboys" may own and shoot guns, but it is rarely the "cowboys" shooting other people in the USofA.

To the question posed by the OP, I agree that the EU is headed towards fewer member states. Some should not belong due to their economic shortcomings. And unless massive reform occurs, all of them should leave due to the lack of accountability from the so-called leadership.
I agree with your comment about cowboys. I have read that if you exclude Washington, Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, and St. Louis, the US has a murder rate that compares favorably with most countries.

What do these five cities have in common? Long time rule by a particular party, strict gun control laws, and larger "inner city" populations. There are few if any "cowboys" in those cities.
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I agree with your comment about cowboys. I have read that if you exclude Washington, Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, and St. Louis, the US has a murder rate that compares favorably with most countries.

What do these five cities have in common? Long time rule by a particular party, strict gun control laws, and larger "inner city" populations. There are few if any "cowboys" in those cities.
What party is that?
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I agree with your comment about cowboys. I have read that if you exclude Washington, Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, and St. Louis, the US has a murder rate that compares favorably with most countries.

What do these five cities have in common? Long time rule by a particular party, strict gun control laws, and larger "inner city" populations. There are few if any "cowboys" in those cities.
There’s something else those cities have in common.
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I agree with your comment about cowboys. I have read that if you exclude Washington, Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, and St. Louis, the US has a murder rate that compares favorably with most countries.

What do these five cities have in common? Long time rule by a particular party, strict gun control laws, and larger "inner city" populations. There are few if any "cowboys" in those cities.
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Re: Where is EU headed?

Me I am like one of those guys who after a life of decadence at 40 they saw Jesus and became church boys/girls.

I am in a total admiration of their 2 amendment . I totally understand now how this is the top 3 of the most important elements for a civil society and for the rule of law.

For all those years I saw this (because I was brainwashed and auto-brainswashed) as something that does not correspond to a modern society, democratic society and it only benefits the industry that is behind this.

While that is not wrong it is true there is a different dimension to this .
What is amazing to me is how the founding fathers, like James Madison and Lincoln did foresse the future and the need to have civils armed.

They, Lincolnl and others wanted to allow the creation of civilian forces that can counteract a tyrannical federal government.

Can you imagine this? They did know how the government at one stage can be controlled by some elite,force whatever and how the people should be able to attack, defend themselves against the tyranny,totalitarism, dictature..

Also I do understand now how there is a huge propaganda and elite who work on convincing us all how "guns are bad" "they kiiilllll the innocent" the usual blah blah... appeal to emotion and other fallacies..

So be like me , wake up
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Old 22.07.2021, 23:09
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Re: Where is EU headed?

I have nothing against the Second Amendment. What scares me though are the general political beliefs of the types in the US who freak out about an alleged threat of "the government taking our guns away".

Apart from Switzerland that has a fairly liberal approach to gun ownership, you can move to CZ now that just has implemented their own 2nd Amendment. Maybe MC and some other V4 fans have recommendations.
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Point was, "cowboys" are not the problem.
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@Urs Max - While I get your point, I think SFRangers point is valid. Large US cities are responsible for a disproportionate amount of the gun violence across the country. I am sure there are some stats for this. Would be interesting to see.

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Me I am like one of those guys who after a life of decadence at 40 they saw Jesus and became church boys/girls.

I am in a total admiration of their 2 amendment . I totally understand now how this is the top 3 of the most important elements for a civil society and for the rule of law.

For all those years I saw this (because I was brainwashed and auto-brainswashed) as something that does not correspond to a modern society, democratic society and it only benefits the industry that is behind this.

While that is not wrong it is true there is a different dimension to this .
What is amazing to me is how the founding fathers, like James Madison and Lincoln did foresse the future and the need to have civils armed.

They, Lincolnl and others wanted to allow the creation of civilian forces that can counteract a tyrannical federal government.

Can you imagine this? They did know how the government at one stage can be controlled by some elite,force whatever and how the people should be able to attack, defend themselves against the tyranny,totalitarism, dictature..

Also I do understand now how there is a huge propaganda and elite who work on convincing us all how "guns are bad" "they kiiilllll the innocent" the usual blah blah... appeal to emotion and other fallacies..

So be like me , wake up
I´ve always mused on who would win...? The second amendment guys with their pop-guns vrs. the governments, tanks, aircraft, structured military, drones, satellites, and advanced surveillance tech.
Kinda makes the 2nd a joke.
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Re: Where is EU headed?

You are so right about that. )
The thing is, in theory if people really know what is happening and let's say there is a mass armed movement that would not stop .. I think even now they could win.

In the near future which means even in 1-2y this wont be pössible any more.
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@Urs Max - While I get your point, I think SFRangers point is valid. Large US cities are responsible for a disproportionate amount of the gun violence across the country. I am sure there are some stats for this. Would be interesting to see.
Big cities always have more of everything: people probably feel invincible because nobody can see them. It is not very mature, a bit like internetz still.
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@Urs Max - While I get your point, I think SFRangers point is valid. Large US cities are responsible for a disproportionate amount of the gun violence across the country. I am sure there are some stats for this. Would be interesting to see.
You will always, by definition, have components that are below average while others are above. Removing the unwanted just to move the average is, at best, cherrypicking.

If you want to identify the areas with the highest crime rate, there's better ways. For instance start with the obvious "crime by capita and area" statistics. There's no need to manipulate other data sets to identify the most problematic zones.
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