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Old 02.08.2021, 19:10
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Re: Russia today - rogue state, a thinly disguised Soviet Union, SPECTRE or what ?

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No worries, let me correct and educate you a bit. Coming from Zerohedge this might be a tad painful.

1. Russia as an extraction economy. A common fallacy among forum warriors like yourself is to assume that industry A as a % of GDP tells you the full story. It doesn't. It requires to look at the extent to which an economy is diversified. To give you a simple example, take Saudi Arabia, which has a bunch of hotels in Riyadh. Now, these hotels represent "services", however, would these services exist if there was no oil and no executives to fly there? No, there won't be. Looking through that prism, The Russian economy is not diversified AT ALL. Over 60% of the exports are DIRECTLY oil and gas. A simple, 12 page document by EBRD might help you get a better view

2. Sovereign wealth fund list: obviously there's difference in value assessment and timing, the list I use is here, but it is actually irrelevant to the point I am making and this is the fact that RELATIVE to its population (assets vs. population size), Russia's sovereign wealth fund is DWARFED by the funds of the other extraction economies, like the GCC states. In other words, Russia is ill-prepared for shocks coming from oil / gas swings and even worse prepared for the long-term

3. The relative importance of oil to GDP is not measured by the amount of barrels used, but, well, by it's impact on said GDP. The point i was making is that as opposed to the oil crisis in 73 and 79, the world today is much more resilient and less reliant on oil. A few reasons why is because advanced economies are much less energy intensive vs. 79, the wages of the workforce are more flexible (less unions). A good read is here
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Old 02.08.2021, 19:24
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that wasn't directed to you, but to other forum members. you're a comedian and your posts are pretty much non-sense as they are ignoring basic facts that can be found online.
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that wasn't directed to you, but to other forum members. you're a comedian and your posts are pretty much non-sense as they are ignoring basic facts that can be found online.
Again. You are not doing any good if you call it nonsense what does not agree with your opinion.

What about having a discussion with facts?
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No need for insults!
When arguments are so egregiously ignorant, I think that ad hominem isn't a logical fallacy
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Again. You are not doing any good if you call it nonsense what does not agree with your opinion.

What about having a discussion with facts?
https://www.englishforum.ch/3333793-post79.html
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Old 02.08.2021, 20:17
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Re: Russia today - rogue state, a thinly disguised Soviet Union, SPECTRE or what ?

Just been contacted by Russian friends. They're desperate to get out. Not for a life in the prosperous west, but happy to go to non-EU Balkan states. Repression is increasing.
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What about having a discussion with facts?
Russia sucks.
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Old 02.08.2021, 20:21
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Just been contacted by Russian friends. They're desperate to get out. Not for a life in the prosperous west, but happy to go to non-EU Balkan states. Repression is increasing.
Help them to get B permit

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They only speak Russian and don't have degrees. Seems unlikely. I would if I could.
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Just been contacted by Russian friends. They're desperate to get out. Not for a life in the prosperous west, but happy to go to non-EU Balkan states. Repression is increasing.
Montenegro is full of them. Not only tourists but folks that stay year long.
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They only speak Russian and don't have degrees. Seems unlikely. I would if I could.
How do you talk to them then?

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what kind of non-sense is that ?

You claim that Russian's record of constructing nuclear plants is shame basing it on a single failure that can easily be attributed to a human error ?

You realize Russia operates 30+ nuclear plants right now ?

Single failure ?? The design was flawed - and Russia lied its way through every tribunal/hearing on exactly this point.
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There were fundamental aspects of the design that couldn't be fixed no matter what [Russian officials] did," Edwin Lyman, the acting director of the Nuclear Safety Project at the Union of Concerned Scientists, told Live Science. "I would not say they were able to increase the safety of the RBMK overall to the standard you'd expect from a Western-style light water reactor
10 RBMK reactors are still in operation today . Russian and now Chinese inability to put the safety of its nuclear plant construction and operation above the desire to meet "targets" is absolutely shameful - the same kind of nonsense that has caused the current pandemic which has killed millions.


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"CNN said French energy firm EDF, which helps run the site, had warned the US government that China's nuclear regulator had raised limits on permissible levels of radiation outside the plant to avoid shutting it down.EDF later said a problem with fuel rods had led to the build-up of gases, which had to be released into the atmosphere.


Fuel rods are sealed metal tubes which hold nuclear materials used to fuel the nuclear reactor.


Last week an EDF spokesperson told CNN the French company would shut the plant down if it could.


They said the decision lay with the Chinese operator."

EDIT: I'm extremely pro nuclear - but such things require full transparency and honesty - things which are very very far away from Russian or Chinese culture in recent times.
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Single failure ?? The design was flawed - and Russia lied its way through every tribunal/hearing on exactly this point.
10 RBMK reactors are still in operation
Lots of world class nations lie, here are just few examples:

WMD in Iraq
State sponsored mass surveillance
Waterboarding torture

All RBMK reactors were upgraded since Chernobyl

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In his posthumously published memoirs, Valery Legasov, the First Deputy Director of the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, revealed that the Institute's scientists had long known that the RBMK had significant design flaws.[34][35] Legasov's suicide in 1988, apparently a result of becoming bitterly disappointed with the failure of the authorities to confront the flaws, caused shockwaves throughout the Soviet nuclear industry and the problems with the RBMK design were rapidly accepted.[36]

Following Legasov's death, all remaining RBMK reactors were retrofitted with a number of updates for safety. The largest of these updates fixed the RBMK control rod design. The control rods have 4.5-metre (14 ft 9 in) graphite displacers, which prevent coolant water from entering the space vacated as the rods are withdrawn. In the original design, those displacers, being shorter than the height of the core, left 1.25-metre (4.1 ft) columns of water at the bottom (and 1.25 metres [4.1 ft] at the top) when the rods were fully extracted.[3] During insertion, the graphite would first displace that lower water, locally increasing reactivity. Also, when the rods were in their uppermost position, the absorber ends were outside the core, requiring a relatively large displacement before achieving a significant reduction in reactivity.[37] These design flaws were likely the final trigger of the first explosion of the Chernobyl accident, causing the lower part of the core to become prompt critical when the operators tried to shut down the highly destabilized reactor by reinserting the rods.

The updates are:

An increase in fuel enrichment from 2% to 2.4% to compensate for control rod modifications and the introduction of additional absorbers.
Manual control rod count increased from 30 to 45.
80 additional absorbers inhibit operation at low power, where the RBMK design is most dangerous.
SCRAM (rapid shut down) sequence reduced from 18 to 12 seconds.
Precautions against unauthorized access to emergency safety systems.
In addition, RELAP5-3D models of RBMK-1500 reactors were developed for use in integrated thermal-hydraulics-neutronics calculations for the analysis of specific transients in which the neutronic response of the core is important.

Nuclear energy is the future of this planet and Russia is ahead of everyone there.

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Exports: In 2019 the top exporters of Nuclear Reactors were Russia ($1.13B), Sweden ($653M), Germany ($382M), United States ($369M), and France ($171M).
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They only speak Russian and don't have degrees. Seems unlikely. I would if I could.
Give them money then
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Re: Russia today - rogue state, a thinly disguised Soviet Union, SPECTRE or what ?

Michael Parenti, Peter Dale Scott, Chossudovsky, Howard Zinn, etc etc.. are not people who are coming from any communist,soviet,'whatever' country/place ... but are imporatant to read in order to understand the comlexity of our history, the interpretation of it, the power - writting that same history and so on...

So far everyone who participated in this discussion obviously hasnt read -anything- apart following some basic narrative.. "these are the bad guys bad bad" .. "those are the good guys" and it ends there somewhere.
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Michael Parenti, Peter Dale Scott, Chossudovsky, Howard Zinn, etc etc.. are not people who are coming from any communist,soviet,'whatever' country/place ... but are imporatant to read in order to understand the comlexity of our history, the interpretation of it, the power - writting that same history and so on...

So far everyone who participated in this discussion obviously hasnt read -anything- apart following some basic narrative.. "these are the bad guys bad bad" .. "those are the good guys" and it ends there somewhere.
Except some people prefer digesting their own experiences of a life under Russian occupation. To offer them insights of some Western observers probably adds salt in their wounds. Ask anyone in V4. They will not be so philosophical about it.
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Except some people prefer digesting their own experiences of a life under Russian occupation.
Wait what? Why did you assume that in a discussion about Russia you're entitled to your own opinion and experience? In case you're in doubt what you should be thinking, please consult Pravda.ru.
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Lots of world class nations lie, here are just few examples:

WMD in Iraq
State sponsored mass surveillance
Waterboarding torture

All RBMK reactors were upgraded since Chernobyl
From wiki
  • They only shut down the last reactors at Chrenobyl in 2000!!
  • By 1980, NIKIET realized after completing a confidential study that accidents with the RBMK were likely even during normal operation, but no action was taken to correct the RBMK's flaws.
  • Instead, manuals were revised, which was believed to be enough to ensure safe operation as long as they were followed closely
  • However, the manuals were vague and Soviet power plant staff already had a habit of not following rules

And that's the point - no one in her/his right mind would trust the Chinese or the Russians with precise equipment where failure could have catastrophic consequences - because they have a habit of half-assing, lying and changing the goalposts - the last one you seem to do a lot of yourself when caught out. Neither country has any business calling itself world class.

That's why when the Chinese plant at Taishan (which was built by EDF - a French company) started to have trouble the French engineers informed the Americans - not to embarass the Chinese but because transparency is critical and if the thing goes critical then it's an international incident - at best.
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Wait what? Why did you assume that in a discussion about Russia you're entitled to your own opinion and experience? In case you're in doubt what you should be thinking, please consult Pravda.ru.
Or Chinese press, yes?

Or NPR. NYT a few weeks after Pravda.

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Not at all. Warsaw pact army was made out of several states: the attack and invasion in 1968 was done by Russian bullies but coordinated as a whole and presented as Warsaw pact deal. So they pushed Czech army into obedience, similar as in Munich '38 we were pawned over to the enemy by our "allies" and made to stomach it by calling our occupants our "friends".
Actually MusicChick I was talking about something else and I totally agree with your point. My comment went more as a reply to amogles saying how people in hungary,czechoslovakia wanted to have free elections (and things like that) and the soviets came, invaded them as if someone declaired a war to them ..
I went back to Yalta agreements that were done 10y before the Warszawa Pact just to recall why on the first place central europe and eastern europe with east germany,half Berlin were under the CCCP. This was done as an agreement among the three sides who were the winnners. So the soviets did not let's say invade/conquer eastern europe (that was my point).
When it comes to Prague 1968, I'm not fanboying in any way, shape or style, I am against all types of demonstration of power, dominance and this is where the problem is our whole history is only based on that.And nothing else. When people uprise against the goverment or create a movement it is horrible and disturbing even when your own goverment beats you up, or there's a civil war ,then deaths (we're supposed to say casualites) so I am not at all going to relativise how it is when a foreign force is doing that because there's nothing worse and it's us- the people who are paying for the moral,mental consequences of all that.

When it comes to Hungary and the soviet invasion it is interesting again how we deduct it to "crazy soviets want blood" .. But it is omitted how at that time Hungary had to pay war reparations to Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union (the treaty of Paris) and also because of Trianon they had to give a lot of land back to the czechoslovakia.. Some speculate how it was the aristocrates who created tensions so there's a big mess and they can get their reserves$$$ and flee the country. But what is true is how it is noted that
"During the night of 23 October, Hungarian Working People's Party Secretary Ernő Gerő requested Soviet military intervention "to suppress a demonstration that was reaching an ever greater and unprecedented scale"."
What really happened after is Hungary did have some 200k fleeing the country and a big percentage were people with their gold etc.

My conclusion is how history is often so mixed with politics and this is where things are getting twisted, on top of that when you add some imperialistic attitude things are even more messed up.
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