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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

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I do, and I believe he knows that himself.
Quite a few have pointed their finger of doom towards BoJo, the spaffing clown
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Iím not so sure. As idiotic as he is I donít think there is anyone credible to replace him at the present time.
and yet, there are people who complain about local (CH) politicians' lack of leadership, foresight etc.
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I think he's only just gotten started.
I fear you are right
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Old 26.09.2021, 15:57
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

I would love for him to be finished but the man is just too connected and too deeply embeddedin that world. Plus, as sad as it makes me, I can't see any credible alternatives.

His recent cabinet shuffle would seem to indicate him intending to dig in, adapt (up to a point) and trim any fat with negative opinion polls etc.

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Old 26.09.2021, 18:30
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

Clearly the AUKUS pact is good for BoJo.

Not only does it ensure the UK's relevance in the world region the music's going to be played for decades to come. BoJo has also managed to push out France and thereby the EU despite its historical ties, and still some possessions in that world region, thereby rendering them largely irrelevant on a geopolitical level.

Well done indeed! That's a massive win both tactically and strategically for the UK as well as BoJo.
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

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Nah, because Keir Starmer is rubbish, the only possibility is a leadership change within the Conservative party. Sunak would be great I think.
Sunak is at least sane and has a basic grasp of the numbers.

As to the others and not that I am cynical but..
Johnson is just a chancer and an opportunist, was a good mayor in London but is a great example of the Peter principle.
Sir kneeler?...really?.. itís been 40 years since labour represented their core voters, appealing to middle class Guardianistas in Islington and Hendon is not going to get them back into power.
Sir Ed Davey?...wetter than Bangkok in September, neither liberal nor democratic.

The mad, the bad and the sad.

Donít blame the punters, they can only vote for whoever is put in front of them.
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Old 26.09.2021, 20:20
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

Spare a thought for those of us on here who are Scottish, because we have Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP in Holyrood to contend with as well. I've always thought Sturgeon's husband being CEO of the SNP and in charge of the financial side of the party is a huge conflict of interest for a start.

My constituency MP in Scotland was SNP, then he changed sides and went over to Salmond's ALBA party (after election to Westminster the SNP suspended him for anti semitism on Twitter).

I am also sick of Sturgeon banging on about Indyref 2 when we're not out of the pandemic situation yet. The last referendum was horrible, SNP people were outside the polling stations trying to patronise you in the hope of getting you to vote yes. The mudslinging, anti English sentiment and vitriol on Twitter was appalling to read.

I don't like the way either Britain or Scotland are going at the moment, reading the news has become really depressing. I think I might just switch off from it over the winter as I'm not going back until March
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Old 26.09.2021, 20:51
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Hope he will be strong enough to support the nation through the upcoming winter.
The energy shortage etc. will be very hard for poor people.
I donĎt know if the coverage and predictions that I read daily in the British press from here is true (Guardian, BBC, Daily Mail (just for fun) etc. You guys are my only remaining contact to England 😳 . And the Swiss coverage is even worse (Tages Anzeiger, NZZ), or the US CNN even worse 😳.
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According to the Daily Mail, the only things the British care about when voting is who to kick off Strictly this week.
Or how low Harry and Megan have stoopedÖ
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Old 26.09.2021, 21:44
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

Iím in the UK at the moment. The anger, and indeed rage, with the government over energy costs and lack of fuel is palatable. If the election was today the conservatives wouldnít get 10 seats.

Next will be a shortage of kerosene for the airports denying the punters from their oft-postponed trips abroad. And they canít get to the airport either.

Interesting times we are living in.
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Old 26.09.2021, 21:53
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

I cancelled the flights I had booked, we should have travelled today for 2 weeks. The Scottish Government aren't bringing themselves into like with the UK Government on the issue of vaccinated people not being required to test until Oct 4th and we couldn't be bothered with the hassle.
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Old 26.09.2021, 23:17
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

When they soon run out of water treatment chemicals, and some essential drugs and isotopes ... I think the reaction will be quite 'strong'.


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Old 27.09.2021, 08:48
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

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Iím in the UK at the moment. The anger, and indeed rage, with the government over energy costs and lack of fuel is palatable. If the election was today the conservatives wouldnít get 10 seats.

Next will be a shortage of kerosene for the airports denying the punters from their oft-postponed trips abroad. And they canít get to the airport either.

Interesting times we are living in.
This couldn't be further from the truth and is more suited to the childrens garderie that is the labour party conference opinion wise.

Johnson has lost some popularity recently (https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...pproval-rating) however he remains in reasonable territory. The current driver shortage may well affect this we will have to see, but I think people are still going to vote for a prime minister who has at least some semblance of a party than the complete and utter shambles that is labour and the complete non event that are the liberal democrats (if they are still going, I'm really not sure nowadays).

One of his strengths as well, is he ignores media opinion. There are howls of outrage at his number of kids - he doesn't give a toss. Screams of outrage at the way he hands out health contracts to his mates - he doesn't care.

You could go on and on, but right now there are enough people who like him and absolutely no vision against him that he won't be stopped in the near future. if he wants to continue, I'd say at least another 5 years.
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Old 27.09.2021, 12:11
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How did you travel over Bowlie?
Flew GVA-Bristol on Squeezie two weeks ago, returning home tonight. Passed 4 petrol stations this morning, all closed.
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Old 27.09.2021, 12:13
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

Friends are driving over at the end of the week!

We are planning to go to UK for Xmas by train.
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Old 27.09.2021, 12:36
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This couldn't be further from the truth and is more suited to the childrens garderie that is the labour party conference opinion wise.
Well it could all blow over in a few days should things return to normal. At the moment the Cís are alternating between ďThere is plenty of fuelĒ and weíll have it sorted ďvery soonĒ. It seems they are promising high, but delivering low.

We shall see, particularly how many qualified third country nationals are prepared to come to Britain to drive on the wrong side of the road for less than three months.

Oh, the media is now talking about a turkey shortage.
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Old 27.09.2021, 12:42
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

Due to fly BA across the pond in a few weeks. I hope/assume they've hedged fuel purchases and won't be passing the hat for cash on the tarmac??
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Old 27.09.2021, 12:46
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

Never mind the Turkeys (don't like it) - running out of chemicals to purify water, and some essential drugs are likely to cause a bigger stir.

How do you foresee things getting back to normal soon. How?

Do you believe those East European HGV drivers will be back soon? Those who were treated so badly, spent Christmas without anything in huge car-parks in Kent last year, and worse. For 3 months contracts without any security and terrible conditions (eg expected to sleep in cab and p*ss in a bottle). Wait and see, but I don't think so. Flu season coming and the UK is short of a huge number of doctors, nurses and carers too. Turkey is the least of their worries.

And the above totally irrespective or being a Brexiter or Remainer!
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Old 27.09.2021, 12:51
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At least another 5 years. No credible challenger and returning from lockdown with growing economy and good news following COVID economic damage.

Not that youíll believe it, but itís the outcome like it or not.
The current economic problems are not due to covid. It was not the pandemic that sent the Polish workers or lorry drivers home. Its not due to the pandemic that supermarket shelves are not filled, fields not harvested and goods not delivered. Its also not covid that the UK has effectively no gas storage facilities anymore and will face some hard truth this winter... its not even Brexit to blame - its simply just really poor leadership.

I dont know what good news you are expecting, but I heard an interview with the (British) head of the UK-German chamber of trade. He sees the UK side suffering a lot more from Brexit than the continental side. BoJo is somehow lucky that the pandemic hit just in time for Brexit - so he has an easy scapegoat. But the truth is that the rest of Europe is currently not facing the same sort of issues... even though some countries like Northern Italy were easily as badly affected by Covid.
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Old 27.09.2021, 13:10
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Please letís not talk about Brexit. Thatís history, it happened, it cannot be changed. Itís current British economic policy that now matters.
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Old 27.09.2021, 13:36
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Well it could all blow over in a few days should things return to normal. At the moment the C’s are alternating between “There is plenty of fuel” and we’ll have it sorted “very soon”. It seems they are promising high, but delivering low.

We shall see, particularly how many qualified third country nationals are prepared to come to Britain to drive on the wrong side of the road for less than three months.

Oh, the media is now talking about a turkey shortage.
There is no shortage centrally, its sluggish delivery which started with a few petrol stations not having a certain grade of fuel... then mass panic buying. The media are very much to blame for hyping the initial fuel shortages and prompting the usual lemming type hoarding.
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Old 27.09.2021, 13:42
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Re: Does anyone else here think that Johnson is finished?

In the short-term, yes. But what about long-term- and THIS winter. Do you think that petrol will suddenly appear from nowhere, if we do not have HGV drivers? Petrol being just one of the very many things the UK will soon be short of- especially things with a short shelf life- like water purifying chemicals, some medicines, and so much more.

People can do without Brie and Prosecco ... but some things are just essential.
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