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Old 24.07.2022, 22:12
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Or maybe we can just pay the pizzo.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...BRRdIFSmA&s=19
How very unlike Trump to renege on a signed agreement.

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On 4 April 1949, the foreign ministers from 12 countries signed the North Atlantic Treaty (also known as the Washington Treaty) at the Departmental Auditorium in Washington, D.C.: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States.
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Ukraine is in Europe and doing far, far too much dying
Shall I send you a map?
According to Putain and his camarilla the Russians are fighting America there! And everything this little trump says is revered by certain "conservative" circles.... So apparently no European is dying there (yes, it's absurd and disingenuous what kiwi guy has written there)

But let's give a bit of a context and explanation for the opinions held by certain posters. Putain has promised he'll be the man to defend conservative values - less rights for women, minorities, less secularism, less globalism etc so no wonder he's so loooved across the pond in certain circles. He promises to solve every problem, he's the man. Who knows, he'll even give Kosovo back to Serbia...(wink wink)
There was a time when every American* looked suspiciously at everything that came from Russia (and rightly so)....Putain had changed that. He's the man, this Putain. He has principles...lol.
Everything coming from certain posters here reeks of "stable genius" (thanks Matty) and "conservative values", as defined by the new right.

*though I bet some Americans/"Westerners" here are only very recently americanised/westernised and grew up in families who hold huge grudges on behalf of their "old countries" and "their people".

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Old 25.07.2022, 08:19
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Being a GWB neocon disqualifies her in my eyes, but if not for that I would vote for her in a second.
The misty eyed nostalgia certain Democrats now get for the Bush era is quite hard to comprehend. Almost as if they're willing to disregard or gloss over the blood on their hands. Ironic in a way, because it was with the election of President Bush when the questioning of the legitimacy of election results really became accepted as mainstream.

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Sigh, I remember when Europeans could take of themselves.

Now it seems, they give their residents fat socialist payoffs while waiting for others to come and die for them
There is a lot of truth to this, the high tax, high spend culture of European democracies is fundamentally at the root of the comparatively weak position the continent finds itself in today.
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Old 25.07.2022, 08:49
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Ukraine is in Europe and doing far, far too much dying
Shall I send you a map?
Far more than if it had been a 1:1 conflict with Russia
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Old 25.07.2022, 08:56
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You were alive in 1871?
You know, I remember when writing the comment I remember thinking....should probably specify “I remember reading about when.......”, but didn’t rewrite as I thought the only person who will nitpick is morton and well...he’ll do it anyway
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Old 25.07.2022, 09:11
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Putain has promised he'll be the man to defend conservative values - less rights for women, minorities, less secularism, less globalism
Will quote this as its the only part that made any sense. Somehow I doubt Putin is the one to defend these values. He's not quite that stable, but if the Russian people support him then that's on them
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Old 25.07.2022, 09:36
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The misty eyed nostalgia certain Democrats now get for the Bush era is quite hard to comprehend. Almost as if they're willing to disregard or gloss over the blood on their hands. Ironic in a way, because it was with the election of President Bush when the questioning of the legitimacy of election results really became accepted as mainstream.
That is only "certain" Democrats, I certainly haven't forgotten and I never will. Cheney was the true enemy in that presidency and it is strange to see his daughter trying to bring back some order to the GOP.

But it shows just how bad Trump was that anyone would have an ounce of nostalgia from that disaster of a presidency. At least there was an element of decorum ...
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Old 25.07.2022, 09:39
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You know, I remember when writing the comment I remember thinking....should probably specify “I remember reading about when.......”, but didn’t rewrite as I thought the only person who will nitpick is morton and well...he’ll do it anyway
My intention was not to nitpick. I just thought you may have a different understanding when Europe was last able to handle regional security issues without the support of the US. I understand that people in the US ask "why should we fighr for Europe", but here I am egoistic because I am doubtful that Europe will ever get to the point where it has a proper security policy. And the assets to back it up.
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Will quote this as its the only part that made any sense. Somehow I doubt Putin is the one to defend these values. He's not quite that stable, but if the Russian people support him then that's on them
Oh, riiiight, I didn't make sense...lol.
I think it should be pretty clear for everyone with a iota of intellectual honesty that a lot of BS that people are spitting out here is coming from the common narrative of certain "conservative" circles who happen to consider old Vlad a bold man, a strong leader that gets what he wants, some even called him "a genius"...

Putin has a lot of fervent fanboys among the US/Western and the European far right/ "new conservatives" and not only. By that I mean he has supporters even among people who are not necessarily identifying themselves with any right wing circle because Russian propaganda has seduced them. Old Vlad appears to be the guy who fights for the good old values and against the "Western liberalism" that went too far!....ridiculous.

That's one thing. Another one is I'm personally tired by people who pose as impartial posters. I find them childish. I'll leave it at that.
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Old 25.07.2022, 09:59
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Oh, riiiight, I didn't make sense...lol.
I think it should be pretty clear for everyone with a iota of intellectual honesty that a lot of BS that people are spitting out here is coming from the common narrative of certain "conservative" circles who happen to consider old Vlad a bold man, a strong leader that gets what he wants, some even called him "a genius"...

Putin has a lot of fervent fanboys among the US/Western and the European far right/ "new conservatives" and not only. By that I mean he has supporters even among people who are not identifying with any right wing circle because Russian propaganda has seduced them.

That's one thing. Another one is I'm personally tired by people who pose as impartial posters. I find them childish.

I for one would not want Putin as my leader. He seems so drab and gloomy.

That being said, if someone is not virulently denouncing Putin it doesn't mean that they support him. Maybe Trump likes him personally, I'd like to make my own opinion.

As long as he keeps east of the Oder, I'm not losing much sleep
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Old 25.07.2022, 12:05
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That is only "certain" Democrats, I certainly haven't forgotten and I never will. Cheney was the true enemy in that presidency and it is strange to see his daughter trying to bring back some order to the GOP.

But it shows just how bad Trump was that anyone would have an ounce of nostalgia from that disaster of a presidency. At least there was an element of decorum ...
I try to ignore our community troll or it just encourages ever more fatuosity.
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Old 25.07.2022, 12:06
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You know, I remember when writing the comment I remember thinking....should probably specify “I remember reading about when.......”, but didn’t rewrite as I thought the only person who will nitpick is morton and well...he’ll do it anyway
Actually, I am not a schoolteacher so I do not correct everything that appears in front of me.
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I try to ignore our community troll or it just encourages ever more fatuosity.
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I don't know where this fits in best, so I try here. Great piece about conservatism, becoming milder, and being truthful to fundamental principles rather than policy preferences.

Might require subscription, although mostly his newsletter is free. I can post the full article if desired.

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Confessions of a Conservative Apostate

What does it mean to be a conservative now?

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https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/...-conservatism/
Summary of the (paywall) article in a CNN interview of yesterday.

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What news to wake up to!

I’ve never felt even an ounce of hope for justice during these investigations, but this is serious. I hope they also hired a special FBI plumber to search the pipes ….
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If this turns out to be nothing….it‘s likely the end of the US
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What news to wake up to!

I’ve never felt even an ounce of hope for justice during these investigations, but this is serious. I hope they also hired a special FBI plumber to search the pipes ….
Why the special plumber? We all know it's the people there there who are chock full of crap.
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If this turns out to be nothing….it‘s likely the end of the US
While an indictment will reestablish harmony and unity.
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While an indictment will reestablish harmony and unity.
Lol…..no. They are looking for “classified documents”. So indictment or not after the not even slap on the wrist if hillary clinton for her distribution by private email, this has already seemed to enrage republicans
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