 | | | 
23.08.2022, 18:30
| Member | | Join Date: May 2021 Location: transcended.
Posts: 174
Groaned at 227 Times in 118 Posts
Thanked 822 Times in 347 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | You mean like the one whose followers beat up police officers and now want to defund the FBI? Like he who believes law and order is only a TV show? | | | | | to be honest almost anything looks better than the current soft on crime approach. no wonder people are arming themselves like its the wild west again! | Quote: | |  | | | They're predominantly Democrats, at least according to Biden's "you're not black if you don't [know to] vote Democrat".
Some 80% of the on-black homicides are comitted by other blacks, ergo by Democrats. The murder rate increase since the pandemic kills young black men at a yet again far higher rate than other groups. Unless you want to claim that the racial composition of the culprits comitting on-black crimes changed materially in recent years (which would require strong evidence) it's predominantly Democrats comitting the crimes.
The crazy thing is that the woke keep ignoring the facts, probably for pure ideological reasons. Unless that fundamentally racist claim gives way to a realistic assessment the young black men will keep slaughtering each other at a far higher rate, and victimise the entire race. | | | | | rather shocking statistics. reading them one can somewhat understand people not wanting to live in areas with high numbers of democrats.
| 
23.08.2022, 20:51
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Zurich-ish
Posts: 5,440
Groaned at 314 Times in 227 Posts
Thanked 11,924 Times in 4,479 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024
^^^ Somehow I doubt that most of the people responsible for violent crime in inner cities actually vote (e.g. gang culture). So I'm not sure why you'd consider them Democrat if they're not even voting, etc.
But it's interesting how, when a white person commits a crime, it has nothing to do with race. And yet when a black person commits a crime, it somehow has everything to with their race.
So on that note... When a Republican commits a violent crime, is it because of their political affiliation or their political beliefs, since you have suggested that there is a correlation between one's propensity to commit crime and which side of the political spectrum they fall within?
| The following 5 users would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post: | | This user groans at Pancakes for this post: | | 
23.08.2022, 21:42
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Hopefully soon to be Aargau
Posts: 2,147
Groaned at 1,003 Times in 562 Posts
Thanked 5,303 Times in 2,363 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | They're predominantly Democrats, at least according to Biden's "you're not black if you don't [know to] vote Democrat".
Some 80% of the on-black homicides are comitted by other blacks, ergo by Democrats. The murder rate increase since the pandemic kills young black men at a yet again far higher rate than other groups. Unless you want to claim that the racial composition of the culprits comitting on-black crimes changed materially in recent years (which would require strong evidence) it's predominantly Democrats comitting the crimes.
The crazy thing is that the woke keep ignoring the facts, probably for pure ideological reasons. Unless that fundamentally racist claim gives way to a realistic assessment the young black men will keep slaughtering each other at a far higher rate, and victimise the entire race. | | | | | I would caution against linking race to voting tendency, especially when there is a huge demographic shift in US voting habits taking place at the moment. This actually started under President Trump, who let's not forget was able to grow his vote share amongst ethnic groups.
Now though it is even more stark with a recent New York Times poll having Hispanic support for Democrats at 41% and 40% for Republicans, compared to 70/30 split in favor of the Dems at the 2018 midterms. If there is a distinction to be made then for crime then it would be that between urban and rural areas.
The interesting thing about linking race to crime is the narrative that is largely sold by the Democrats of the rising threat of white supremacy. It's why so many jumped all over the recent mass shooting in Buffalo as evidence of this.
Whilst there are isolated incidences of hate crime and the rise of the "new right" is something to keep an eye on, looking at the numbers it's hard to find much evidence of this being a genuine threat. Especially when compared to the genuine real numbers of increasing violent crime, thefts, rise in drug overdoses, southern border crossings etc.
__________________
Thou/Thee
| The following 2 users would like to thank TonyClifton for this useful post: | | 
24.08.2022, 11:47
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,179
Groaned at 678 Times in 569 Posts
Thanked 23,269 Times in 12,216 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | to be honest almost anything looks better than the current soft on crime approach. no wonder people are arming themselves like its the wild west again!
rather shocking statistics. reading them one can somewhat understand people not wanting to live in areas with high numbers of democrats. | | | | | Au contraire 
" In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century."
| 
24.08.2022, 13:07
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,179
Groaned at 678 Times in 569 Posts
Thanked 23,269 Times in 12,216 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024
The Florida judge presiding over Trump's motion to appoint a special master has asked his legal team to "refine" their legal arguments. One strange legal argument in their filing to support Trump's claim of executive privilege was to quote precedent from the Nixon case "United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974)" although the Supreme Court decided in this case Nixon was not entitled to executive privilege.
Anyway in an own goal, Trump's claim of executive privilege protection appears to concede that these are official government records that he was not legally allowed to keep.
Last edited by marton; 24.08.2022 at 13:55.
| This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
24.08.2022, 16:54
| Forum Legend | | Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SG
Posts: 10,462
Groaned at 639 Times in 463 Posts
Thanked 14,140 Times in 7,390 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | So on that note... When a Republican commits a violent crime, is it because of their political affiliation or their political beliefs, since you have suggested that there is a correlation between one's propensity to commit crime and which side of the political spectrum they fall within? | | | | | You ignore that this aspect of my post is entirely based on Biden's obviously racist remark, and sarcastically expands it. If you have a problem with it you need to take it up with Biden.
But Ok, I never said reading comprehension is any of your fortés. | Quote: | |  | | | ^^^ Somehow I doubt that most of the people responsible for violent crime in inner cities actually vote (e.g. gang culture). So I'm not sure why you'd consider them Democrat if they're not even voting, etc. | | | | | Again, your idol Biden demands it. But Ok, maybe he doesn't even consider them black if they don't vote. This is the man the likes of you have voted into power.
Crime is a choice, that's part of what makes it a crime. Obviously those choices differ massively between the racial/ethnic groups. If you have a problem with that, and how it's represented in the official statistics, you need to take that up with the Census Bureau, the FBI, and so on and so forth.
| This user groans at Urs Max for this post: | | 
26.08.2022, 20:45
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,179
Groaned at 678 Times in 569 Posts
Thanked 23,269 Times in 12,216 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024
From today's redacted version of the affidavit. | Quote: |  | | | a preliminary review of the FIFTEEN BOXES indicated that they contained "newspapers, magazines, printed news articles,
photos, miscellaneous print-outs, notes, presidential correspondence, personal and postpresidential records, and 'a lot of classified records.' Of most significant concern was that highly classified records were unfoldered, intermixed with other records, and otherwise unproperly [sic] identified." | | | | | and 184 classified documents were found
Incredible abuses of Presidential authority.
| 
26.08.2022, 21:33
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SZ
Posts: 3,861
Groaned at 378 Times in 268 Posts
Thanked 8,137 Times in 3,476 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | From today's redacted version of the affidavit.
and 184 classified documents were found
Incredible abuses of Presidential authority. | | | | | And now the MAGA morons are going to yell about the blacked-out passages. Like in there Trump's exoneration lies.
I guess not much new in the release. Probable cause that he committed crimes. Indictment likely. F--- him.
| This user would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post: | | 
26.08.2022, 22:07
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dietikon ZH
Posts: 2,415
Groaned at 25 Times in 22 Posts
Thanked 3,760 Times in 1,205 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024
Quite simply:
Until he is criminally charged and convicted, every accusation and allegation is only making him, and the MAGA movement, politically stronger and more extreme.
If the DOJ have the goods on him, then they need to indict him and pronto.
| This user would like to thank litespeed for this useful post: | | 
26.08.2022, 22:12
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SZ
Posts: 3,861
Groaned at 378 Times in 268 Posts
Thanked 8,137 Times in 3,476 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | Quite simply:
Until he is criminally charged and convicted, every accusation and allegation is only making him, and the MAGA movement, politically stronger and more extreme.
If the DOJ have the goods on him, then they need to indict him and pronto. | | | | | I don't think it makes a difference as the MAGA already have foam at their mouth. But yes, indict him and pronto. Ideally before he declares. Which might be any moment.
| The following 2 users would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post: | | 
26.08.2022, 22:18
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,442
Groaned at 162 Times in 116 Posts
Thanked 1,558 Times in 833 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024
was hoping to vote for DeSantis but this BS is turning me back to DJT……
I can’t wait to vote in ca 70 days
Plus I get to vote in my first Swiss referendum soon….great times
| 
26.08.2022, 22:25
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SZ
Posts: 3,861
Groaned at 378 Times in 268 Posts
Thanked 8,137 Times in 3,476 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | was hoping to vote for DeSantis but this BS is turning me back to DJT……
I can’t wait to vote in ca 70 days 
Plus I get to vote in my first Swiss referendum soon….great times | | | | | Where are you voting?
| 
26.08.2022, 23:59
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,179
Groaned at 678 Times in 569 Posts
Thanked 23,269 Times in 12,216 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | was hoping to vote for DeSantis but this BS is turning me back to DJT……
I can’t wait to vote in ca 70 days 
Plus I get to vote in my first Swiss referendum soon….great times | | | | | No surprise, I am sure millions of others in the Trump cult will do likewise.
Hopefully, the swing voters will recognise the risks to national security but I would not count on it.
| 
27.08.2022, 00:02
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,179
Groaned at 678 Times in 569 Posts
Thanked 23,269 Times in 12,216 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | I don't think it makes a difference as the MAGA already have foam at their mouth. But yes, indict him and pronto. Ideally before he declares. Which might be any moment. | | | | | Well before he declares he can take the money donated to him and his PACS and spend it wherever he wants.
After declaration, there are severe limits on how and where he can spend it so I believe he will delay.
| The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
27.08.2022, 00:49
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SZ
Posts: 3,861
Groaned at 378 Times in 268 Posts
Thanked 8,137 Times in 3,476 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | Well before he declares he can take the money donated to him and his PACS and spend it wherever he wants.
After declaration, there are severe limits on how and where he can spend it so I believe he will delay. | | | | | No idea on these limitations. Which makes me as smart as Trump or his classy legal team. Politically, I would think he would want to declare before an indictment.
| 
27.08.2022, 08:48
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,442
Groaned at 162 Times in 116 Posts
Thanked 1,558 Times in 833 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | Where are you voting? | | | | | Kanton Zurich | 
27.08.2022, 09:02
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,442
Groaned at 162 Times in 116 Posts
Thanked 1,558 Times in 833 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024
No big deal…..Facebook admits the government (FBI) interfered in the 2020 election to suppress Hunter Biden story https://youtu.be/BN3PIGLDscQ
79% of Americans say the 2020 election would have been decided differently had news of the Laptop from Hell been more honestly reported…. https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-e...coverage-poll/ | The following 2 users would like to thank kiwiguy08 for this useful post: | | 
27.08.2022, 10:42
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,179
Groaned at 678 Times in 569 Posts
Thanked 23,269 Times in 12,216 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | No idea on these limitations. Which makes me as smart as Trump or his classy legal team. Politically, I would think he would want to declare before an indictment. | | | | | It will be the third time for Trump to campaign so he and his legal team are well aware of the limitations; of course, if he follows the rules is a good question..
For example, he should no longer be able to spend millions of donations on his private legal bills, fixing his airplane, and such.
Edit; I doubt Trump will declare before the mid-terms so he avoids the blame for the Dems winning the Senate again, currently most of his Senate endorsed candidates are underwater.
Last edited by marton; 27.08.2022 at 12:12.
| This user groans at marton for this post: | | 
27.08.2022, 19:50
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,179
Groaned at 678 Times in 569 Posts
Thanked 23,269 Times in 12,216 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: |  | | | Donald Trump’s attorneys late Friday made a new pitch for an independent review of the materials seized from his Mar-a-Lago estate.
So far, they made no mention of Trump’s claims to have declassified the material.
They mentioned the Presidential Records Act but ignored that the Florida judge asked Trump’s lawyers whether her court even has the jurisdiction to consider his demands. Note; There is a provision of the Presidential Records Act requiring any legal disputes by a former president under that statute to be filed in the federal district court in Washington D.C.
The new filing Friday doesn’t say how the records are claimed to be privileged (attorney-client or executive or ...). They do not specify which items they believed the government had improperly taken.- | | | | | Amateur time!
Meanwhile according to Fox Business (yes, Fox) a unit of FOX News Media. | Quote: |  | | | RightForge is the server company hosting Truth Social.
RightForge now contends that Truth Social has reneged on its contractually obligated monthly payments for setting up the platform’s web-servicing infrastructure, according to three people with direct knowledge of the matter.
RightForge claims that Truth Social has made just three payments and ceased making any payments since around March. RightForge also claims that Truth Social owes it around $1.6 million and is threatening legal action to recoup the money. | | | | | According to this site, RightForge has 4 employees and capital of $1.99M.
I hope Truth Social does not lose its host and so closes down. | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
30.08.2022, 10:18
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bern
Posts: 2,668
Groaned at 489 Times in 323 Posts
Thanked 5,935 Times in 2,122 Posts
| | Re: All about Trump and 2024
Trump is really losing it (again):
"Trump demands reinstatement as 'rightful' president or 'a new Election, immediately!' as some Republicans seek distance from him" https://www.businessinsider.com/dona...22-8?r=US&IR=T | This user would like to thank Susie-Q for this useful post: | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Thread Tools | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:25. | |