No, you can't label 74 million American voters in that way and expect to be taken seriously.

I was referring to the party, or wing of the party, the "MAGA GOP" as represented by their pitiful candidates.

Among the 74 million are probably many traditional conservatives who simply look for the R on the ballot and don't see how nuts and a danger to a functioning liberal democracy the GOP has become. Against people like Kari Lake or Herschel Walker or Doug Mastriano the answer has to be "any Democrat".

According to recent polls around 40% of self-identified Republican voters support Trump over the GOP, cf. NBC News poll.

A federal judge today following a live hearing today declined to issue an immediate decision in the special master case brought by former President Trump and gave no timeline for the decision.

Meanwhile a federal judge today again denied a bid from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) to quash a subpoena compelling him to testify before a Fulton County, Georgia, special grand jury probing former President Trump’s alleged interference in the 2020 election.

She did bar questioning about Graham’s calls to state election officials as it relates to fact-finding for his own vote on certifying of the 2020 election, which she ruled fell under the Speech and Debate Clause.

“As to the other categories, the Court finds that they are not legislative, and the Speech or Debate Clause does not apply to them,” May wrote. “As such, Senator Graham may be questioned about any alleged efforts to encourage Secretary [of State Brad] Raffensperger or others to throw out ballots or otherwise alter Georgia’s election practices and procedures.”

Edit: The nonpartisan election handicapper Cook Political Report today shifted its forecasts for five competitive House races in favor of Democrats.
I read a quote somewhere "the forecast GOP election tsunami is turning into a puddle".

What effect do you expect this arrogance and condescension to have, or your aggression and personal attacks elsewhere?

It's high time for a long look in the mirror.
Facts are facts, they don't need defending, they simply are and speak for themselves. Everything else is open to interpretation and thereby opinion including everything political.

The WSJ put it quite well(bold by me). The last quoted words make it clear that it was intended as a partisan instrument, to put it mildly. Party politics financed by tax dollars:

How can as few as your MAGA GOP be a movement? That takes entire percentages of a population.

That aside, a party that isn't populist can't gain broad reach regardless of their position or leaning. Social justice, equality, equity, CRT. Racism exclusively by the whites as the sole reason for everybody else's problems (another minor hyperbole) are testament for the massive populism on the left. Nothing to be proud of but the Dems have as black of a vest as the Reps or MAGA GOP as you call them.

If you want to discuss whatever else you mentioned you need to put beef on the bone. It's not enough to simply regurgitate Democrat populist drivel.

Beef on the bone?

Let's start with accepting election results and peaceful transition of power. Or the separation of church and state. Two very simple yet fundamental concepts, deeply rooted in the Constitution that the MAGA GOP spits on.

After that we can discuss the ever more frequent and thinly veiled calls for political violence.

President Biden said as much last night, America has crossed the point of no return now.

Looking in the mirror now, and damn she’s good looking and wishing you a nice Friday ahead Urs Max!

On another note, Biden’s speech last night is going to stir up some trouble. I’ve already read several comments online where MAGAs are comparing themselves to Hitler’s Jews.

I am happy to have heard those words said, but I’m not so sure they will help.

Yes I've read those too. Together with some nice cropped photos of him in front of a dark red building with armed military. Job well done in regards to creating an immediate association.

What could be a neutral news source to read about his speech?

like how the democrats have so much respect for freedom of speech or the right to bear arms?

Seems Trump is well aware of campaign finance limitations, from yesterday's interview on WendyBell radio (WendyBell radio )

Seems the law and order party now supports beating up policemen

The transcript of the speech maybe: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/u...ranscript.html

It makes me chuckle as they've done everything they can to make him out as a nursing home patient and apparently he's now the next Mussolini.

i saw "PedoHitler" being used a lot.

Why are people so mean? - Donald Trump

Sure, the refusal to accept the election is an abomination. That's good for Trump, bad for everybody else.

What else can you mention that doesn't equally or comparably apply to the Dems? What's christianity for the GOP is CRT and social justice for the Dems for example.

My point is that both are as bad as the other, but only one side gets the flak on here, including from you. It's only "them" that do bad things. And many things only work because they've been labeled usefully, like populism. According to the media that's exlusively a thing on the right even though it's obviously at least as present on the left. Or Biden's claim that the US democracy is under threat from the right exclusively, despite clear authoritarian attempts by himself. I'm pretty sure you'd be outraged like hell if the Ministry of Truth had been attempted under Trump.

A federal judge yesterday dismissed the Carter Page lawsuit over government surveillance so maybe they did act impartially

Why don't you read it, or better still, watch it for yourself and make your own mind up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wygovCnX8Uw

Asides from the optics, which were dreadful and we'll see the image below an awful lot in the coming weeks and months, in fact, it was all rather Trumpian. One was reminded a little of the ending to Animal Farm.

One quote that stood out to me:

Already the Democrats are aligning themselves so they too can refuse to accept any future elections, it's all very predictable.

Anyway, shouldn't all this be on the President Biden thread?!

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Let us agree to disagree here. I have many criticisms to the Democrats, but they are not the ones who want to de-certify elections. Which to me is *the* central point why they are not the same.

And why do I care? I believe without a democratic (small d) and trans-Atlantic America, times will get very dark in Europe also.