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It was a great speech.
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Old 03.09.2022, 12:25
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And just like that President Biden gave the green light to attack his opponent's voters en masse. It started with Hillary Clinton and the "basket of deplorables" and now it's just been normalized by the sitting President.

To think people believe it's Donald Trump that is a threat to democracy
Congratulations on ticking all of Chuff's boxes

As you well know it did not start with Hillary, here is one of many Trump examples from a year earlier.

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Donald J. Trump@realdonaldtrump

The last person corrupt Hillary Clinton wants to run against is Donald J. Trump. I'll end up beating her in every state. New Fox Poll-Trump!

Dec 9th 2015 - 8:14:17 AM EST
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Old 03.09.2022, 12:32
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We've gone over this before, the Dems were the ones that started it!
Add to the list when the Dems tried to block Donald Trump winning an electoral college majority. Then again trying to interrupt the vote itself through objections, by ironically even citing voting machines as an excuse.

Democratic presidential electors revolt against Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...s-trump-231731

Then there was the campaign to get the electoral college to vote with their "conscience"

These Celebrities Are Urging the Electoral College to Dump Donald Trump

https://time.com/4603254/celebrities...d-trump-video/
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Old 03.09.2022, 14:35
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Add to the list when the Dems tried to block Donald Trump winning an electoral college majority. Then again trying to interrupt the vote itself through objections, by ironically even citing voting machines as an excuse.

Democratic presidential electors revolt against Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...s-trump-231731

Then there was the campaign to get the electoral college to vote with their "conscience"

These Celebrities Are Urging the Electoral College to Dump Donald Trump

https://time.com/4603254/celebrities...d-trump-video/
Your lack of knowledge of US history and consequent spreading of false information is tragic.

The Dems were not the ones that started it!

The first electoral college challenge was back in 1876.

The 1876 presidential election was between Republican Rutherford B. Hayes of Ohio and Democrat Samuel J. Tilden of New York.
Tilden won the popular vote and the electoral count. But Republicans challenged the results in three Southern states, which submitted certificates of election for both candidates.

In January 1877, Congress established the Federal Electoral Commission to investigate the disputed Electoral College ballots.
The bipartisan commission, which included Representatives, Senators, and Supreme Court Justices, voted along party lines to award all the contested ballots to Hayes—securing the presidency for him by a single electoral vote.

So the Republicans actually managed to reverse the result.
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

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Why don't you read it, or better still, watch it for yourself and make your own mind up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wygovCnX8Uw

Asides from the optics, which were dreadful and we'll see the image below an awful lot in the coming weeks and months, in fact, it was all rather Trumpian. One was reminded a little of the ending to Animal Farm.

One quote that stood out to me:



Already the Democrats are aligning themselves so they too can refuse to accept any future elections, it's all very predictable.

Anyway, shouldn't all this be on the President Biden thread?!


How Hitler would you like your speech?

Biden: Yes.
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What else can you mention that doesn't equally or comparably apply to the Dems? What's christianity for the GOP is CRT and social justice for the Dems for example.
as well as all the LGBT/grooming stuff too.
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Old 03.09.2022, 16:09
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We're participants, some more willing than others. But obviously it's the US calling the shots, not Europe. It's Biden who declared Russia's decapacitation the aim in Ukraine, not Europe. It's Europe that bears much stiffer energy price increases than the US. I'm not aware of significant heating or industrial production problems in the US because of the sanctions.
What? A bit of a memory refresher. Since Bush junior times, both Dems and Reps have regarded Russian natural gas "as undermining Europe’s overall energy security and stability". Ironically, this was an February 2018 FP magazine opinion text criticizing US Presidents (plural) opposing Nordstream 1 and 2.

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The Donald Trump administration has emphasized its separation from its predecessors in energy policy, but at least one aspect has been entirely continuous: its ardent opposition to the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline from Russia to Germany. The Barack Obama administration opposed the Nord Stream 2 project, and the George W. Bush administration opposed the parallel Nord Stream pipeline before it became operational in 2011. Last week, in Warsaw, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson effectively endorsed those earlier positions by saying that the United States sees the pipeline “as undermining Europe’s overall energy security and stability.” The new pipeline — which, together with the original Nord Stream, will have the capacity to provide a quarter of Europe’s annual natural gas imports — was also specially targeted by U.S. sanctions on Russia adopted by Congress in August 2017.

This stance has always put the United States at odds with Russia — and, for some commentators, this might seem reason enough to endorse the policy. But the fact that American opposition to Nord Stream 2 is bipartisan doesn’t suggest it is right.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/02/06...d-for-america/

In contrast, last 3 German ex-chancellors have defended it: Kohl, Schroder and Merkel. I remember Merkel even telling Nordstream 2 was a pure commercial decision, not a political one. So, no need to discuss with other EU countries the political consequences of the decision. Poland, Estonia, Lithuania shut up.

So, full responsibility of German government for relying on Russia in face of oppositions from US and the Baltic countries...somehow, it's the US that's calling the shots. This is victimism, blaming others for own failures.

PS. Even Trump told loudly relying on Russian gas was a mistake, even Trump.
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Old 03.09.2022, 16:31
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It was a great speech.
Remind you of someone from the Vaterland?
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Old 03.09.2022, 17:09
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Remind you of someone from the Vaterland?
Yeah, Helmut Schmidt for example.
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Yeah, Helmut Schmidt for example.
I would have bet it was the Leni Riefenstahl vibes
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So, full responsibility of German government for relying on Russia in face of oppositions from US and the Baltic countries...somehow, it's the US that's calling the shots. This is victimism, blaming others for own failures.
You keep trying to portray my position as victimisation. That's not what I say.
You can misrepresent as much as you want, just don't expect me to remain in the conversation.
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Old 03.09.2022, 19:13
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

The outcries about the red background and the Marines are pathetic attempts to deviate from the substance of the speech. The Hitler comparisons are either pure trolling or show how incredibly dumb some people are. Topping it off with some language about pedos says probably more about the poster's history with his dad than about Biden.
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Old 03.09.2022, 20:25
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as well as all the LGBT/grooming stuff too.
You keep bringing this up.

The man doth protest too much, methinks.
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Old 03.09.2022, 20:53
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Add to the list when the Dems tried to block Donald Trump winning an electoral college majority. Then again trying to interrupt the vote itself through objections, by ironically even citing voting machines as an excuse.

Democratic presidential electors revolt against Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...s-trump-231731

Then there was the campaign to get the electoral college to vote with their "conscience"

These Celebrities Are Urging the Electoral College to Dump Donald Trump

https://time.com/4603254/celebrities...d-trump-video/
Maybe that's because he's a delusional psychopath.
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Maybe that's because he's a delusional psychopath.
And that's an own goal.
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Old 03.09.2022, 21:00
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How Hitler would you like your speech?

Biden: Yes.
Are you unable to share with us the specifics in Biden's speech that you disagreed with or, at a minimum, what Hitler would have liked?

High-level attacks like this without any supporting context sadly just support the myth that Trump supporters are not the brightest bulbs on the tree.
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Old 03.09.2022, 21:33
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You can read the full list of seized documents here.
The list includes 90 empty folders that had contained classified documents.
A lot of discussion on social media about these empty folders.

Since Trump and his team never made an inventory, so we will probably never know if the FBI were able to recover all documents containing US secrets or if some were given to other people or countries.

Robert Philip Hanssen is believed to be the US spy who most damaged the US by supplying highly classified national security information to the Russians, can Trump beat this record?
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

To see how crazy Trump is, you just have to read the transcript of his rallies. This is from Pennsylvania... https://www.newsweek.com/read-everyt...o-raid-1739683

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If we want to be accurate about it, As threats to democracy and as enemies of the state, you're all enemies of the state. He's an enemy of the state, you know that? The enemy of the state is him and the group that control him, which is circling around him, 'Do this. do that Joe, you're going to do this Joe."

Right. I think Philadelphia was a great choice to make this speech of hatred and anger. His speech was hatred and anger. By the way, the next morning he forgot what he said, you saw that.

I do like the red lighting behind him, like the devil.
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Before our very eyes, our beloved country is being taken over by the very people who turned democracies into dictatorships and into ultimately, ruination. They think they can divide us but they can't. Can't divide us.

The MAGA movement is the greatest in the history of our country. And maybe in the history of the world, maybe in the history of the world.
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There's never been a period of time, both before COVID—or the China virus as we say—and after COVID. From that moment on, I became the enemy of the Washington swamp for six years. The radical Democrat party, the RINOs, the media and the Deep State have tried relentlessly to stop me and you.

First they fabricated the Russia Russia Russia scam you so it was a total fabrication. Now they all admit it. Then we had impeachment hoax number one, impeachment hoax number two, and now the same exact people at Justice and the FBI, the same people along with outside scum, are at it again with the horrific raid of my home.

They just go on and on. And they have to be stopped. We have to spend time on our country, not on defending ourselves against scams.
There is so much there to choose from but this is truly about as demented and as disingenuous as ramblings get. He can literally stand there any say anything and the poor ignorant, disillusioned and disenfranchised souls who make up his userbase will stand there unblinking and lap up his conspiracy theories because the only message they hear is that he supports the little guy against the 'deep state', despite him doing everything contrary to that during his reign as an increasingly authoritarian President.

If Trump wins again in 2024, the USA may well take decades to recover. It is literally the last chance to defeat him and this MAGA insanity before he is too old to run again.

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And just like that President Biden gave the green light to attack his opponent's voters en masse. It started with Hillary Clinton and the "basket of deplorables" and now it's just been normalized by the sitting President.

To think people believe it's Donald Trump that is a threat to democracy
Just lol at this regurgitation of Trumpian-esque nonsense, I mean do you actually believe the things you write? Somehow I really doubt it.

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Re: All about Trump and 2024

Biden's speech was a trap to elicit a response from Trump and he fell right into it.

Republicans are quite keen to keep Trump's name (and reputation) out of sight in the upcoming elections, but beyond-crazy speeches and pictures of top secret stolen documents carelessly scattered around his residence have blown that plan out of the water.
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There is so much there to choose from but this is truly about as demented and as disingenuous as ramblings get. He can literally stand there any say anything and the poor ignorant, disillusioned and disenfranchised souls who make up his userbase will stand there unblinking and lap up his conspiracy theories because the only message they hear is that he supports the little guy against the 'deep state', despite him doing everything contrary to that during his reign as an increasingly authoritarian President.

If Trump wins again in 2024, the USA may well take decades to recover. It is literally the last chance to defeat him and this MAGA insanity before he is too old to run again.



Just lol at this regurgitation of Trumpian-esque nonsense, I mean do you actually believe the things you write? Somehow I really doubt it.


I have no dog in the fight.. but I am democratic..l generally loathe politicians whether whining hand wringing lefties or the frothing right wingers..

However, perhaps Trump isn’t actually as crazy as some would have you believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Owe-MxNu8
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