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So, to sum up, a politician does a publicity stunt which involves bringing a large group of people to a small town to live with zero notice to the community then proclaims it a victory when it doesn’t work out? You see where this went wrong, don’t you?
i do see where it wrong: self-proclaimed "sanctuary city" needs to call in the national guard to remove 50 immigrants within 24 hours because its a "humanitarian crisis" - yet when ordinary border towns have their resources overwhelmed by thousands of illegal immigrants crossing every day they get told that the border is "secure"!
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Old 16.09.2022, 21:57
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It will certainly appeal to the angry and resentful. It solves nothing.
It wasn't meant to solve anything, it was just a political stunt.

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Spectacularly backfired and made DeSantis look like a petty little opportunist, though, didn’t it? Still, probably gives the hard-of-thinking something to cheer about.
I don't think so, there isn't much that wins over opposition voters in the US these days. The stunt served its purpose. Shows he'll be a shrewd operator should he choose to run in 2024!
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Old 16.09.2022, 21:58
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It wasn't meant to solve anything, it was just a political stunt.
Indeed.
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It will certainly appeal to the angry and resentful. It solves nothing.
Why not, do this often enough and to enough blue cities and they will pressure Biden to do something about the fake asylum seekers
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Old 16.09.2022, 22:08
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I don't think so, there isn't much that wins over opposition voters in the US these days. The stunt served its purpose. Shows he'll be a shrewd operator should he choose to run in 2024!
Depressing that you sound so enthusiastic over a politician actively contributing to the dumbing down of politics but hey, empty gestures and “look how shit I am” seems to win the base voters’ approval these days. Seems the fella will do well given the benchmark. All that’s missing is the “I’m acting in the name of god” and you’ve got them properly sucked in.
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Old 16.09.2022, 22:29
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Depressing that you sound so enthusiastic over a politician actively contributing to the dumbing down of politics but hey, empty gestures and “look how shit I am” seems to win the base voters’ approval these days. Seems the fella will do well given the benchmark. All that’s missing is the “I’m acting in the name of god” and you’ve got them properly sucked in.
Indeed, tragic that politicians are dumbing down politics and making empty gestures

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Old 16.09.2022, 22:37
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Indeed, tragic that politicians are dumbing down politics and making empty gestures

Weeping at a fence is exactly like dumping two plane-loads of immigrants off on an unprepared community for the glory. Exactly the same.
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Old 16.09.2022, 22:46
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Indeed, tragic that politicians are dumbing down politics and making empty gestures

Please explain the relevance of a 2018 protest outside of a migrant detention center in Tornillo, TX, near the US-Mexico border if you can.
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Old 16.09.2022, 22:49
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Weeping at a fence is exactly like dumping two plane-loads of immigrants off on an unprepared community for the glory. Exactly the same.
You're right, AOC really is just performing an empty gesture.
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Old 16.09.2022, 22:54
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Why not, do this often enough and to enough blue cities and they will pressure Biden to do something about the fake asylum seekers
A pathetic, heartless, and fact-free attempt to disparage people escaping appalling conditions in their home countries while you wallow in relative luxury in one of the best countries in the world.
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You're right, AOC really is just performing an empty gesture.
That’s the danger with whataboutery - it can, as you have demonstrated, end up as a spectacular self-own. Politics these days are a minefield for it.
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Both DeSantis and Abbot are positioning this as transporting illegal immigrants ...
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These are people whose applications for asylum have been accepted so are here legally.
Both statements can be true at the same time, and probably are in hundreds of thousands of cases annually.

Crossing the border without proper documentation is illegal, that makes an illegal immigrant.

Subsequentially requesting asylum allows immigrants to stay until their request has been ruled on (total processing time apparently 1100 days on average, they're forbidden to work for the first 180 days). Apparently they're free to move anywhere in the country until then, hence the legality of the transports.

Refugees OTOH immigrate legally as their requests have to be filed from abroad. Biden set the ceiling for this FY at 125'000, the same is expected for FY '23.
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Old 16.09.2022, 23:00
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It will certainly appeal to the angry and resentful. It solves nothing.
It isn't any governor's job to solve it, that's up to the Biden.

Biden however will do exactly nothing unless pressed, his Press Secretary keeps making that perfectly clear (see above). They claim it's all Trump's fault, and Biden's government is unable to fix it.

Which is an open admission of utter incompetence.
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Old 16.09.2022, 23:23
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A pathetic, heartless, and fact-free attempt to disparage people escaping appalling conditions in their home countries while you wallow in relative luxury in one of the best countries in the world.
What is appalling?

Is it their lack of perspective or poverty? Then don't hide behind asylum, be upfront that you are an economic migrant. Claiming asylum for being broke is bs in my opinion. I don't think it was the spirit of the geneva convention

Are you being prosecuted in Guatemala, Venezuela or Haiti? Then why are you travelling through several countries that are not prosecuting you and where you would have your peace? Again here the Geneva convention is stupidly vague as they didn't anticipate the modern day level of abuse.
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Weeping at a fence is exactly like dumping two plane-loads of immigrants off on an unprepared community for the glory. Exactly the same.
seems like they should have been prepared.

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Old 16.09.2022, 23:27
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What is appalling?

Is it their lack of perspective or poverty? Then don't hide behind asylum, be upfront that you are an economic migrant. Claiming asylum for being broke is bs in my opinion. I don't think it was the spirit of the geneva convention

Are you being prosecuted in Guatemala, Venezuela or Haiti? Then why are you travelling through several countries that are not prosecuting you and where you would have your peace? Again here the Geneva convention is stupidly vague as they didn't anticipate the modern day level of abuse.
Are you confusing ‘prosecuted’ with ‘persecuted’?
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seems like they should have been prepared.

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Are you seriously not able to understand the difference between being accepting of immigrants and minorities, etc. and not just suddenly being able to easily lodge and feed a huge group of them on a small island when they arrive unexpectedly?

As it turns out, though, the immigrants that did arrive at Martha's Vineyard have been transported to a military base to receive shelter and humanitarian support.

"The migrants, after two days of uncertainty on the small island and a large local effort to provide for them, cheered Friday morning when they were told they’d be taken to Joint Base Cape Cod."

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/16/p...tis/index.html
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Ahh, vushka and Tony trolling this forum for maximum reactivity like always, rubbing their hands with glee with every furious response they generate. Truly the mods are slack as hell for allowing the outrageous level of calculated and subtle far right political poison from these wretches to continue unchecked for so long.

The DeSantis migrant stunt is truly a disgusting and shameful thing to behold.

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Are you confusing ‘prosecuted’ with ‘persecuted’?
Shirley you’re right about that one, typo
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Ahh, vushka and Tony trolling this forum for maximum reactivity like always, rubbing their hands with glee with every furious response they generate. Truly the mods are slack as hell for allowing the outrageous level of calculated and subtle far right political poison from these wretches to continue unchecked for so long.

The DeSantis migrant stunt is truly a disgusting and shameful thing to behold.
Do you talk in the same way you write? I love the prose
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