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Wow. The virtue signaling is off the charts. Everyone is calling out DeSantis but not one single peep about democrats doing the same exact thing. Objective thinking anyone? Not here it seems.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/18/biden-...dead-of-night/

Planeloads of underage migrants are being flown secretly into suburban New York in an effort by President Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them across the region, The Post has learned.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stination.html

El Paso's Democratic mayor said Sunday that he is only busing migrants to New York City to help them get to their final destination as critics pointed out the hypocrisy in the left condemning Republicans for doing the same thing.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Florida.html

Return to sender! NYC is relocating migrants to Florida

I guess it's only bad when done by a republican.

Well of course the feds move migrants to appropriate places, this is well planned and organized.
They don't chuck them out of buses in strange cities without even a good luck card..
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Old 19.09.2022, 11:38
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Actually there is harm. When they are thousands of miles away from their next immigration appointment they lose the rights to stay in the USA.
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Old 19.09.2022, 12:17
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Wow. The virtue signaling is off the charts. Everyone is calling out DeSantis but not one single peep about democrats doing the same exact thing. Objective thinking anyone? Not here it seems.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/18/biden-...dead-of-night/

Planeloads of underage migrants are being flown secretly into suburban New York in an effort by President Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them across the region, The Post has learned.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stination.html

El Paso's Democratic mayor said Sunday that he is only busing migrants to New York City to help them get to their final destination as critics pointed out the hypocrisy in the left condemning Republicans for doing the same thing.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Florida.html

Return to sender! NYC is relocating migrants to Florida

I guess it's only bad when done by a republican.
You really don't understand the difference between relocating underage immigrants who are here as unaccompanied minors so that they can be in the care of a guardian and lying to a large group of immigrants by telling them they're going to Boston to get work permits and instead dropping them off at Martha's Vineyard in order to make them "someone else's problem?"

Regarding your final link... Yes, as the article states, they'd rather be in Florida than in NYC. This wouldn't even be an issue if DeSantis hadn't sent them to NYC in the first place. Get it?
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Old 19.09.2022, 12:20
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with desantis apparently taking over the role of hitler 2.0 does this mean that trump has now been relegated to a mere 'mussolini' status?
You are talking about the clown who is unable to find any migrants in his own state so has to borrow them from Texas.
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You are talking about the clown who is unable to find any migrants in his own state so has to borrow them from Texas.
Just part of his political brownie point games leading up to the next election ... I am petrified he will be the next POTUS.
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You really don't understand the difference between relocating underage immigrants who are here as unaccompanied minors so that they can be in the care of a guardian and lying to a large group of immigrants by telling them they're going to Boston to get work permits and instead dropping them off at Martha's Vineyard in order to make them "someone else's problem?"

Regarding your final link... Yes, as the article states, they'd rather be in Florida than in NYC. This wouldn't even be an issue if DeSantis hadn't sent them to NYC in the first place. Get it?
Oh I understand the difference but do you? Do you even know what or who a sponsor could be? I'm sure they are ALL 100% legit and not some cartel/mafia members using them as sex slaves. Oh wait...

https://nypost.com/2022/08/30/nyc-se...f-victims-fbi/
The accused madam, Ysenni Gomez, allegedly targeted newly arrived Spanish-speaking immigrants to ensnare in forced prostitution in Westchester County and the Bronx.

https://newyorkcity.ptsdcollab.com/h...new-york-city/
It’s difficult to estimate the size and scale of Commercial Sex Trafficking in the United States, especially the minors that are trapped and sold online. Guardian Group conducted a study where we analyzed escort ads across the nation with the aim to uncover a consistent ratio to help you determine the size of the problem.
The Texas study found 79,000 minor victims of sex trafficking.
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Old 19.09.2022, 13:03
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

Based on other replies

It IS ok when done by a Democrat but bad, bad, bad when done by a republican.

Got it, hypocrites.
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

in fairness to pancake she did say that most of them were going to the US to work
(although she didn't specify as drug mules, human traffickers or sex slaves etc.)
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Old 19.09.2022, 13:20
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in fairness to pancake she did say that most of them were going to the US to work
(although she didn't specify as drug mules, human traffickers or sex slaves etc.)
Hey, someone needs to do the drug dealing if locals don't want to. The fun thing it's slowly becoming legal and honest work
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Old 19.09.2022, 13:34
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Hey, someone needs to do the drug dealing if locals don't want to. The fun thing it's slowly becoming legal and honest work
Damn immigrants coming in here taking our illegal jobs.
Do you mention prior dealing experience when applying for a legal dispenser job?
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Old 19.09.2022, 13:52
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Wow. The virtue signaling is off the charts. Everyone is calling out DeSantis but not one single peep about democrats doing the same exact thing. Objective thinking anyone? Not here it seems.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/18/biden-...dead-of-night/

Planeloads of underage migrants are being flown secretly into suburban New York in an effort by President Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them across the region, The Post has learned.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stination.html

El Paso's Democratic mayor said Sunday that he is only busing migrants to New York City to help them get to their final destination as critics pointed out the hypocrisy in the left condemning Republicans for doing the same thing.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Florida.html

Return to sender! NYC is relocating migrants to Florida

I guess it's only bad when done by a republican.
I've just come to the conclusion that Democrats are just incapable of feeling hypocrisy. No matter how many times it's pointed to them, whether it's the examples above of migrants being ferried around the country, rioting when you don't get your own way, denouncing election results or eroding trust in institutions, they just don't care, even when it's patently obvious.

There's no shame or guilt, all they seem to care about is political power and doing whatever it takes to hold on to it.
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I've just come to the conclusion that Democrats are just incapable of feeling hypocrisy. No matter how many times it's pointed to them, whether it's the examples above of migrants being ferried around the country, rioting when you don't get your own way, denouncing election results or eroding trust in institutions, they just don't care, even when it's patently obvious.

There's no shame or guilt, all they seem to care about is political power and doing whatever it takes to hold on to it.
We absolutely are capable ... but go on with your bi-partisan delusions and what-aboutisms. Your points above in bold literally made me spit my tea out in laughter ...

And you have shown nothing but support for these DeSantis and Abbott's recent stunts - the biggest hypocrisy from you is that you somehow still consider yourself a Christian.

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Old 19.09.2022, 14:09
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

This thread is turning into an alt-right troll fest, I will take a pause.

There is no value in replying to posts when the OP has no interest in thoughtful debate.
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Old 19.09.2022, 14:18
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We absolutely are capable ... but go on with your bi-partisan delusions and what-aboutisms. Your points above in bold literally made me spit my tea out in laughter ...

And you have shown nothing but support for these DeSantis and Abbott's recent stunts - the biggest hypocrisy from you is that you somehow still consider yourself a Christian.

Now now Susie, don't get personal. Bigoted views are not welcome.

Back to the point though, it may shock you to learn that whataboutery is sometimes right. Especially on matters of clear hypocrisy, but most certainly on matters of justice, which is another example of double standards applied by the Democrats. This matters because justice is supposed to be fair and equally applied.

I've no doubt in your mind, Democrats have never said Donald Trump was elected illegitimately, or need to acknowledge burning city centers or called for the defunding of the police. No wonder you had to spit out your tea!
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Old 19.09.2022, 14:27
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I've just come to the conclusion that Democrats are just incapable of feeling hypocrisy. No matter how many times it's pointed to them, whether it's the examples above of migrants being ferried around the country, rioting when you don't get your own way, denouncing election results or eroding trust in institutions, they just don't care, even when it's patently obvious.

There's no shame or guilt, all they seem to care about is political power and doing whatever it takes to hold on to it.
Closest continental US is Maine and that's like 5'700 km away from here.

Where do you meet these hypocrite Dems?
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Oh I understand the difference but do you? Do you even know what or who a sponsor could be? I'm sure they are ALL 100% legit and not some cartel/mafia members using them as sex slaves. Oh wait...

https://nypost.com/2022/08/30/nyc-se...f-victims-fbi/
The accused madam, Ysenni Gomez, allegedly targeted newly arrived Spanish-speaking immigrants to ensnare in forced prostitution in Westchester County and the Bronx.

https://newyorkcity.ptsdcollab.com/h...new-york-city/
It’s difficult to estimate the size and scale of Commercial Sex Trafficking in the United States, especially the minors that are trapped and sold online. Guardian Group conducted a study where we analyzed escort ads across the nation with the aim to uncover a consistent ratio to help you determine the size of the problem.
The Texas study found 79,000 minor victims of sex trafficking.
Ironically, you are "virtue signalling". Something you were complaining others were doing earlier on.
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Closest continental US is Maine and that's like 5'700 km away from here.

Where do you meet these hypocrite Dems?
It's mainly in the US media, Social media etc. even on these pages. People say things like "ahh, but that's not the same you see because...". When any fair minded assessment concludes it's clearly the same or worse.

In fact, even to get such a concession is rare, normally it's more along the lines of "our situation was completely different, Trump WAS an illegitimate president!"

I've come to the conclusion it's barely worth the effort for the Republicans to point out the hypocrisy anymore. When both sides are so far a part ideologically, drawing attention to hypocrisy becomes a redundant weapon. The big issue is that to see hypocrisy there needs to be a certain degree of reason, and if one can't see it, it means ones ability to reason is also diminished.
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I've come to the conclusion it's barely worth the effort for the Republicans to point out the hypocrisy anymore. When both sides are so far a part ideologically, drawing attention to hypocrisy becomes a redundant weapon. The big issue is that to see hypocrisy there needs to be a certain degree of reason, and if one can't see it, it means ones ability to reason is also diminished.
So what makes you so cocksure that you're right about it? Sure it's about immigrants but the difference is that DeSantis pulled a highly public political stunt to teach an unprepared community a public lesson. None of the counter-examples did this. They were mostly legit, processed migrants being taken to pre-arranged destinations in their full knowledge, more often than not to places and people they already knew. Where is the hypocrisy exactly?

The fact that DeSantis' stunt backfired so widely gives a reasonable barometer for public feeling about it.
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It’s difficult to estimate the size and scale of Commercial Sex Trafficking in the United States
Not that difficult, just ask Prince Andrew and Matt Gaetz.
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It's mainly in the US media, Social media etc. even on these pages. People say things like "ahh, but that's not the same you see because...". When any fair minded assessment concludes it's clearly the same or worse.

In fact, even to get such a concession is rare, normally it's more along the lines of "our situation was completely different, Trump WAS an illegitimate president!"

I've come to the conclusion it's barely worth the effort for the Republicans to point out the hypocrisy anymore. When both sides are so far a part ideologically, drawing attention to hypocrisy becomes a redundant weapon. The big issue is that to see hypocrisy there needs to be a certain degree of reason, and if one can't see it, it means ones ability to reason is also diminished.
I'd bet that if you go live for a while in the US you'll find that the differences are exaggerated and under-reported at the same time.

They're exaggerated from the number of people that cares. In daily life anyone is busy with something, even with happiness. The differences are under-reported from the craziness of the minority of people with lots of free time that believes the other side are the enemies.

It would be interesting if you go to live to the US for a while and find out if effectively both sides are that far apart. But careful with saying in public half the things you're written in this thread. Both Dems and Reps would unite to crush the foreigner. There are a few things that unite them, don't be that thing.
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