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05.12.2022, 20:17
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05.12.2022, 22:44
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | Fox News takes small steps away from Trump | | | | | That article is misleading, imo. I read other reports that said Fox is only moving her out of a paid role, not cutting ties entirely. The reason is that her FIL has openly declared a run for president. As much as Fox licks Trump's shoes, they know that having his relative on the payroll doesn't look great. She'll be around plenty as an unpaid guest. | 
06.12.2022, 16:49
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While we wait for the walls to “close in” on Trump, his ex arch nemesis and a disgraced lawyer got 14 years in prison https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/05/p...ent/index.html
The media darling really is finally going away. Let’s see how tough he will be in prison.
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06.12.2022, 18:04
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | I assume you cannot be bothered to read the articles you link to? | Quote: |  | | | The sentence handed down by federal district Judge James Selna will begin after Avenatti completes a five-year prison term he’s currently serving after being convicted in two separate trials in New York. | | | | | So posting "Let’s see how tough he will be in prison" is pretty dumb when he is already in prison and has been for some time.
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07.12.2022, 10:50
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It is projected Warnock will win the Georgia Senate runoff, so giving the Dems 51 Senate seats and getting them out from under the Joe Manchin one-man blockade of Senate legislation.
Many thanks to Trump for ensuring awful Senate candidates were nominated.
With over 95% of the votes counted, Warnock is 3% in the lead.
Now Biden will have two years of freedom to continue to install new judges.
Actually, Walker did surprisingly well considering he knows nothing about politics, has fathered multiple children out of wedlock despite claiming the importance of families, his main residence is not in Georgia and the well documented but not proven claims of paying for abortions and of domestic violence.
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07.12.2022, 11:41
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | Actually, Walker did surprisingly well considering he knows nothing about politics, has fathered multiple children out of wedlock despite claiming the importance of families, his main residence is not in Georgia and the well documented but not proven claims of paying for abortions and of domestic violence. | | | | | I am very relieved he lost - fun fact, he took ballet classes while playing for the Dallas Cowboys at my ballet company when I was young. He was actually quite nice, but very stupid. I used to be proud of this fact until he tried to be a politician and we learned what he's really all about. (Perhaps all of the hits to the head had something to do with it too.)
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07.12.2022, 12:10
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | I am very relieved he lost - fun fact, he took ballet classes while playing for the Dallas Cowboys at my ballet company when I was young. He was actually quite nice, but very stupid. I used to be proud of this fact until he tried to be a politician and we learned what he's really all about. (Perhaps all of the hits to the head had something to do with it too.) | | | | | Who would have thought that ballet was so violent?
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07.12.2022, 12:44
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | Who would have thought that ballet was so violent? | | | | | hehe no, he got those as a football player | 
07.12.2022, 13:43
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I think Dems have won the battle but not the war, and 2024 will be decisive.
Wit the current Red congress/Blue Senate, no legislation of useful consequence will get passed in the next 2 years. For the GOP it is all about power, and they will do their best to throw spanners in Bidens' works for the next 2 years...to make him look impotent.
Although not publicly criticising Trump, the GOP will be hoping for a primary candidate like De Santis..someone with Trumpian leaning policies but popular enough to get GOP centrist voters back on board. Senate GOP candidates for 2024 will almost certainly be, on appearance, more centrist as well, and there are mostly Dem incumbents at risk in that election.
The Dems need to get back in touch with grass root voters and learn to attack on the key issues that concern voters...especially the economy, jobs, inflation etc. They also need a primary presidential candidate to rival DeSantis...Biden is just too old. Newsom would be the best choice, but he needs to be a tad more centrist to get the votes.
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07.12.2022, 15:54
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A few weeks ago I said to OH that Newsom would be a good candidate if he moved middle-ish. The fact that so many GA peeps would vote for a candidate that was so breathtakingly unfit for anything, let alone a high political office, says volumes. How's this for an idea, Rs? Dennis Rodman for president! Sounds OK, yeah?
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07.12.2022, 17:48
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As a Texan, I can tell you Newsom wouldn't be an ideal choice.
My home state has been dealing with loads of Californians moving there and there is plenty of animosity about those "liberals" coming to Texas. The same weird logic extends to all of the other swing and conservative states. California policies in general receive plenty of criticism nationwide and sometimes with good reason. I don't think the controversial head of that state would be an ideal candidate for the Democrats.
My pick currently would be Pete Buttigieg - Biden simply needs to acknowledge he is too old to run again and enjoy his final years in peace. I will still vote for him again though if I have to ...
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07.12.2022, 17:55
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I agree Newsom is far from a perfect candidate. But for different reasons.
But he’s better than Buttigieg - who brings different baggage (mainly on race). A woman would be my first choice, far, Tammy Duckworth, a respected senator, with a strong background (decorated military doesn’t hurt) and she’d carry the conservative middle of the road voters.
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07.12.2022, 18:00
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | I agree Newsom is far from a perfect candidate. But for different reasons.
But he’s better than Buttigieg - who brings different baggage (mainly on race). A woman would be my first choice, far, Tammy Duckworth, a respected senator, with a strong background (decorated military doesn’t hurt) and she’d carry the conservative middle of the road voters. | | | | | You might as well just give DeSantis the keys to the White House.
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07.12.2022, 18:01
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If Trump is the nominee then the Dems could put up a donkey in trousers and win.
If not Trump then it gets more complicated.
Newsom would be OK, no Dem would win in Texas anyway.
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07.12.2022, 19:01
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | If Trump is the nominee then the Dems could put up a donkey in trousers and win. | | | | | I would vote for a donkey in a dress...
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07.12.2022, 19:13
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | If Trump is the nominee then the Dems could put up a donkey in trousers and win. | | | | | it worked in 2020 but not in 2016.
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07.12.2022, 19:27
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Newsom would be OK, no Dem would win in Texas anyway.
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07.12.2022, 19:28
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | I agree Newsom is far from a perfect candidate. But for different reasons.
But he’s better than Buttigieg - who brings different baggage (mainly on race). A woman would be my first choice, far, Tammy Duckworth, a respected senator, with a strong background (decorated military doesn’t hurt) and she’d carry the conservative middle of the road voters. | | | | | What happened with Pete and race?
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | What happened with Pete and race? | | | | | Pete is generally not well liked by black voters. He comes off as tone deaf and many black voters have been feeling as if they've been taken for granted, considering how they've consistently delivered for the Democrats over the years. Here are some articles that give some of his issues from the last time around, and I haven't seen or heard much improvement.
If Harris is dropped on the ticket, the Democrats have absolutely got to have a plan in place to keep minority voters, especially black and latino. Buttigieg doesn't have much, if any, credibility there, where Biden was Obama's biggest cheerleader, even though he was an old white guy. Another white dude, unless having real connections with black or latino voters, would likely lose a lot of the voters. Beto O'Rourke hasn't won enough in his home state to be that guy, yet, he'd be no better than a VP candidate - at best. Sanders is too old, as is Biden. Dropping Harris will lose a lot of votes from the Democratic core, unless there is a serious alternate, popular with Black voters. This is why I think Duckworth is a decent alternative - she grew up poor, has a mixed race background, has physical disabilities that she's overcome, she's not rich, she has been popular in a state with a considerable black and minority electorate, she's got military service, and does not come off as entitled - all things important to minority voters.
I think currently, the likely ticket will be Harris/Buttigieg, and I'm not sure if that's enough... it's an interesting problem, and I doubt that Trump will be the candidate, and I'm not sure that he'll even be in a position to have a "third" party, whatever that zoo would look like, so he won't be splitting Republican votes. Almost the best thing Biden could do now is retire with a health issue or (unfortunately) die before the end of 2023, allowing Harris to step in and be president and presidential, and mainly to get voters to see that the US is fine with a black female president. If that happens, unless she has a major scandal, she could easily win. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...-race-problem/ https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-a-closer-look https://prospect.org/civil-rights/af...ieg-very-well/ https://revealnews.org/article/mayor...em-in-indiana/
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| | Re: All about Trump and 2024 | Quote: | |  | | | I think currently, the likely ticket will be Harris/Buttigieg, and I'm not sure if that's enough... | | | | | It's enough to guarantee a win for Trump.
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