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Old 07.12.2022, 20:49
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Old 07.12.2022, 20:58
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Old 07.12.2022, 21:03
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Old 07.12.2022, 23:06
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Pete is generally not well liked by black voters. He comes off as tone deaf and many black voters have been feeling as if they've been taken for granted, considering how they've consistently delivered for the Democrats over the years. Here are some articles that give some of his issues from the last time around, and I haven't seen or heard much improvement.

If Harris is dropped on the ticket, the Democrats have absolutely got to have a plan in place to keep minority voters, especially black and latino. Buttigieg doesn't have much, if any, credibility there, where Biden was Obama's biggest cheerleader, even though he was an old white guy. Another white dude, unless having real connections with black or latino voters, would likely lose a lot of the voters. Beto O'Rourke hasn't won enough in his home state to be that guy, yet, he'd be no better than a VP candidate - at best. Sanders is too old, as is Biden. Dropping Harris will lose a lot of votes from the Democratic core, unless there is a serious alternate, popular with Black voters. This is why I think Duckworth is a decent alternative - she grew up poor, has a mixed race background, has physical disabilities that she's overcome, she's not rich, she has been popular in a state with a considerable black and minority electorate, she's got military service, and does not come off as entitled - all things important to minority voters.

I think currently, the likely ticket will be Harris/Buttigieg, and I'm not sure if that's enough... it's an interesting problem, and I doubt that Trump will be the candidate, and I'm not sure that he'll even be in a position to have a "third" party, whatever that zoo would look like, so he won't be splitting Republican votes. Almost the best thing Biden could do now is retire with a health issue or (unfortunately) die before the end of 2023, allowing Harris to step in and be president and presidential, and mainly to get voters to see that the US is fine with a black female president. If that happens, unless she has a major scandal, she could easily win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...-race-problem/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-a-closer-look

https://prospect.org/civil-rights/af...ieg-very-well/

https://revealnews.org/article/mayor...em-in-indiana/
I’m a liberal that doesn’t want to see anyone chosen simply for their sex or the color of their skin, that isn’t progress … I want the best person to run.

Will have a read through the articles, thank-you.
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I’m a liberal that doesn’t want to see anyone chosen simply for their sex or the color of their skin, that isn’t progress … I want the best person to run.

Will have a read through the articles, thank-you.
I also want the best most qualified person, regardless of gender or race, for the job, but unfortunately, that’s not how politics usually works.
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Old 08.12.2022, 01:34
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

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Two documents with classified markings were found in a Florida storage unit during a search by a team hired by former President Donald Trump’s lawyers, a person familiar with the situation told CNN.
Presumably, this non-government team was not in possession of the necessary security clearances to view classified documents.

How many more secret documents are floating around?
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Old 08.12.2022, 10:54
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I also want the best most qualified person, regardless of gender or race, for the job, but unfortunately, that’s not how politics usually works.
Considering we've had only one black president and no women, it doesn't apply so much for the presidency. I voted for Obama because I thought he would be a fantastic POTUS (and he was although disappointing at times), not because he was black. I miss him everyday and I wish his wife would run ... bring on the groans.

Anyway, we will have to see. Harris has been M.I.A. during her tenure as VP, I don't think she's a good choice. It has been disappointing as I was so excited to see what she would do.
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Old 08.12.2022, 11:35
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I wish his wife would run ...
You really want Trump to win again, don't you?

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Old 08.12.2022, 11:36
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Considering we've had only one black president and no women.
WE have had no plack presidents, but quite a few women (8), in fact the first woman president was also a Jew!

https://www.admin.ch/gov/en/start/fe...residency.html

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Old 08.12.2022, 11:57
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Considering we've had only one black president and no women, it doesn't apply so much for the presidency. ...

Anyway, we will have to see. Harris has been M.I.A. during her tenure as VP, I don't think she's a good choice. It has been disappointing as I was so excited to see what she would do.
Nobody knows what actually goes on behind closed doors.
However! IMHO! Will be happy to see anyone serve. Red or blue. Only as long as they are competant, courteous, respectful and duly qualified.
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Never thought I'd see the day when Mitt looked like a relief!
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Old 08.12.2022, 13:46
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Hahaha noooo!! One can dream and Michelle Obama or Bernie would be dream presidents for me.
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Old 08.12.2022, 16:51
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Hahaha noooo!! One can dream and Michelle Obama or Bernie would be dream presidents for me.

Maybe. Maybe not. Are you wealthy? Don't forget. Americans had no problem banking here till Obama came along.
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I’m a liberal that doesn’t want to see anyone chosen simply for their sex or the color of their skin, that isn’t progress … I want the best person to run.
it also seems a bit crass to lump all the black and minority voters together and assume thay they don't vote based on policy but rather just for someone with the same skin colour as them.
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it also seems a bit crass to lump all the black and minority voters together and assume thay they don't vote based on policy but rather just for someone with the same skin colour as them.
The thought seems realistic though.

Remember Biden's "you're not black if you don't vote Democrat". Even now he seems to think that the "black man" needs to be told what to do and how to behave.
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Old 08.12.2022, 22:59
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Maybe. Maybe not. Are you wealthy? Don't forget. Americans had no problem banking here till Obama came along.
No not wealthy, husband and I both make good middle management salaries in lucrative industries - which may still be on the poverty line for some EFers.

We consider ourselves as happy “DINKS”. (Double income, no kids)
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Old 09.12.2022, 00:22
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Tammy Duckworth, a respected senator, with a strong background (decorated military doesn’t hurt) and she’d carry the conservative middle of the road voters.
I think the world of Tammy Duckworth... but I'll selfishly admit I hope she stays my senator for at least the next six years. Illinois needs her!
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Old 09.12.2022, 15:24
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

Well, there goes the Dems Senate 51:49 majority.

Senator Sinema leaving Democratic Party and will register as independent
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Old 13.12.2022, 08:57
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haha, the NYT has named John Fetterneck as one of the most stylish people of 2022........
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Well, there goes the Dems Senate 51:49 majority.

Senator Sinema leaving Democratic Party and will register as independent
She is utterly unpopular among Democratic voters (like 50 points negative or worse) and unlikely to survive a Democratic primary. So maybe politically there is a logic in this move - although it is likely she will just be marginalized between GOP and Dems in 2024.

She has said she will continue to caucus with the Dems, and on policy she mostly voted with Biden anyway. So maybe not much changes. Bernie and King are independents also.
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