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Old 17.12.2022, 19:56
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Well, it's no secret that Trump will exploit anyone and anything to make a dollar. But people also pay hundreds and thousands of dollars on Pokemon cards, so.... go figure.

So how exactly did Biden ruin the stock market?
True, but that is when Pokemon was a hot commodity. Try getting that kind of cash today

And its 2022, market is down ca 10%……..Biden is president, his party controls all branches of government….. not really controversial
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Old 17.12.2022, 20:56
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True, but that is when Pokemon was a hot commodity. Try getting that kind of cash today

And its 2022, market is down ca 10%……..Biden is president, his party controls all branches of government….. not really controversial
And they never crashed at all during Trump’s presidency did they?
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Old 17.12.2022, 21:38
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the logic doesn't seem that 'weird' to me. they vote for democrat policies that turn their area shit and then they run to more conservative areas and often advocate for the same policies they ran away from.

reminds me of EU folks moving here and talking about the 'benefits' of CH joining the EU
The main reason people are moving out of California is due to the high housing costs. I think you also need to keep in mind that there are many parts of the US that are "shit" that are run by Republicans. In fact, the most dangerous state in the US is Alaska, and Alaska has consistently been a Red State since 1964. Florida is also a Red State, and Tallahassee, Florida (the capital) has a very high crime rate and one of the highest rates of crime in the US for cities of that size.

So the point is, you can't blame high crime rates simply on whether or not Republicans or Democrats are in charge. If that was the case, there wouldn't also be high crime rates in Republican cities and states, and there wouldn't be so many "blue cities" in the list of the top safest cities to live in the US. The safest states in the US in general are New England states, which are consistently Democrat.

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True, but that is when Pokemon was a hot commodity. Try getting that kind of cash today

And its 2022, market is down ca 10%……..Biden is president, his party controls all branches of government….. not really controversial
And when the economy took a dump during Trump's administration, was that Trump's fault? And when the economy did so well under Obama -- an economy that Trump inherited -- was that due to Obama?

You have a very narrow field of perception if you think that Presidents have some kind of magic wand they can wave to control the economy. Maybe if you took a break from right-wing media sources for a while and read up on the real reasons driving inflation in the US, etc. then your field of perception would expand.
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Old 17.12.2022, 21:52
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The main reason people are moving out of California is due to the high housing costs. I think you also need to keep in mind that there are many parts of the US that are "shit" that are run by Republicans. In fact, the most dangerous state in the US is Alaska, and Alaska has consistently been a Red State since 1964. Florida is also a Red State, and Tallahassee, Florida (the capital) has a very high crime rate and one of the highest rates of crime in the US for cities of that size.

So the point is, you can't blame high crime rates simply on whether or not Republicans or Democrats are in charge. If that was the case, there wouldn't also be high crime rates in Republican cities and states, and there wouldn't be so many "blue cities" in the list of the top safest cities to live in the US. The safest states in the US in general are New England states, which are consistently Democrat.



And when the economy took a dump during Trump's administration, was that Trump's fault? And when the economy did so well under Obama -- an economy that Trump inherited -- was that due to Obama?

You have a very narrow field of perception if you think that Presidents have some kind of magic wand they can wave to control the economy. Maybe if you took a break from right-wing media sources for a while and read up on the real reasons driving inflation in the US, etc. then your field of perception would expand.
Good post. My only objection is that Kiwi knows this all perfectly well, but likes to troll a bit.
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Old 17.12.2022, 21:59
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Good post. My only objection is that Kiwi knows this all perfectly well, but likes to troll a bit.
Yeah, whatever it is... It's tiresome, for sure.
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Old 17.12.2022, 22:37
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Yeah, whatever it is... It's tiresome, for sure.
Nah, I like him. He is entertaining and has some good points. Much more than the politically correct lot here.
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Re: All about Trump and 2024

Flushed with success over his NFT cards, Trump panders to 'the special relationship' with England ( if not the whole of the UK ) with his 'It's Going Home' Christmas card for the PM's England fans.

Yes Trump says It's Coming Home, England !!

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Yeah, whatever it is... It's tiresome, for sure.
But that's the goal, to create confusion and chaos so reasonable people stop posting on fora and other social media platforms. It's a strategy.
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Old 18.12.2022, 00:36
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Nah, I like him. He is entertaining and has some good points. Much more than the politically correct lot here.
Since you like a lot to label and insult.......which lot do you belong to? The annoying self-righteous pompous arse humourless one?
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Flushed with success over his NFT cards, Trump panders to 'the special relationship' with England ( if not the whole of the UK ) with his 'It's Going Home' Christmas card for the PM's England fans.

Yes Trump says It's Coming Home, England !!

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Since you like a lot to label and insult.......which lot do you belong to? The annoying self-righteous pompous arse humourless one?
Absolutely. Amd did I hit a nerve?
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Absolutely. Amd did I hit a nerve?
Oh, you really don't know me if you think I'm politically correct.
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And they never crashed at all during Trump’s presidency did they?
No, Pokemon cards were not really a thing then
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Old 18.12.2022, 09:28
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The safest states in the US in general are New England states, which are consistently Democrat.
And the least ethnically diverse states in the country too…..but this opens a whole new can of worms


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And when the economy took a dump during Trump's administration, was that Trump's fault? And when the economy did so well under Obama -- an economy that Trump inherited -- was that due to Obama?

You have a very narrow field of perception if you think that Presidents have some kind of magic wand they can wave to control the economy. Maybe if you took a break from right-wing media sources for a while and read up on the real reasons driving inflation in the US, etc. then your field of perception would expand.
The president makes choices that affect the economy. Not everything that happens to an economy is the presidents fault. Both statement are true, but people don’t care. The perception by people is what counts.

Trump got the covid induced market crashed which surely played a part in undermining the message that the economy was better under him and cost him some votes that year.

Clinton got a lot of credit for balancing the budget in the late 90’s. This was steered mainly by tax receipts from a strong economy and the dot com bubble.

The current economy is on a path to harder times because the Fed is hiking the interest rates so agressively due to inflation. Spending trillions in unecessary spending didn’t cause (all of the) inflation, but it did pour gasoline on the fire. At least that is the message that can be pointed out.
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Old 18.12.2022, 09:32
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Good post. My only objection is that Kiwi knows this all perfectly well, but likes to troll a bit.
It’s good that you understand some of these points I try to make. Having to explain things to the 2-3 crones in this thread really is tiresome though……
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Old 18.12.2022, 16:17
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The president makes choices that affect the economy. Not everything that happens to an economy is the presidents president's fault. Both statement statements are true, but people don’t care. The perception by people is what counts.

Trump got the covid induced market crashed crash which surely played a part in undermining the message that the economy was better under him and cost him some votes that year.

Clinton got a lot of credit for balancing the budget in the late 90’s 90s. This was steered mainly by tax receipts from a strong economy and the dot com bubble.

The current economy is on a path to harder times because the Fed is hiking the interest rates so agressively aggressively due to inflation. Spending trillions in unecessary unnecessary spending didn’t cause (all of the) inflation, but it did pour gasoline on the fire. At least that is the message that can be pointed out.
I agree except for your unsupported claim of unnecessary spending, AAMOF, the US debt increased more under Trump (pro rata) than so far under Biden.

My grammar and spell checker keeps filling my screen with corrections to your posts so I decided to share this irritation.
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Old 18.12.2022, 16:22
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Nah, I like him. He is entertaining and has some good points. Much more than the politically correct lot here.
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It’s good that you understand some of these points I try to make. Having to explain things to the 2-3 crones in this thread really is tiresome though……
Only some points were understood. Maybe you should consider explaining your points to everyone.
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It’s good that you understand some of these points I try to make. Having to explain things to the 2-3 crones in this thread really is tiresome though……
And yet you are the one who consistently ignores and/or warps the narrative on anything that contradicts your cognitive biases.
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Old 18.12.2022, 17:27
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And the least ethnically diverse states in the country too…..but this opens a whole new can of worms
You mean the can of worms where you try to validate your own racism?

When crime is low in blue states, you attribute it to a lack of ethnic diversity.
When crime is low in red states, you attribute it to Republicans.

When crime is high in blue states, you attribute it to Democrats.
When crime is high in red states, you attribute it to ethnic people (i.e. non-white people).

So according to your "logic," no matter what, non-whites and Democrats are responsible for crime in the US. And when a minority commits a crime, it has everything to do with their race. And when a white person commits a crime, it has nothing to do with their race. And when crime is committed in a blue state, the state's politicians are to blame. And when crime is committed in red states, the state's politicians are not to blame. Is that right?
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OOOhhh...crickets. I'd invest in Bored Ape Yacht Club before the orange one's stuff.
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