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Old 23.06.2022, 13:40
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Sorry, but this is how democracy works, nothing special happened yesterday. Nobody guaranteed Macron he'll have a comfortable majority. He will have to pursue dialogue with the fringe characters too - Melenchon, Le Pen etc. (and not desert them in their echo chambers with their loyal followers, maybe they'll also learn something)
If you think this isn't democracy, oh, well.
Nothing special happened? Really? For the first time in the fifth republic the French president has failed to win a parliamentary majority. You really think he'll be able to negotiate with people who in the runup to the election he labeled as "dangerous extremists".

Yes, that's democracy, however to invoke Godwin, let's not forget that Hitler was voted to begin with.

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I meant strong leaders in the sense of Regan, Thatcher, Mitterand who wanted and did good for their countries not tinpot dictators.
The Zeitgeist has changed though and those times are over. Strong leaders like Regan or Thatcher would never be able to function in the current climate. 24 news cycles, every minute detail scrutinised and amplified on social media would make their reforms almost impossible.

I would even go as far to argue if M. Macron was president back then he'd be remembered as a "strong leader". As much as I struggle to warm to the man, he has a vision for what is necessary for France, realises that tough reforms are required and has a certain stubbornness in wanting to achieve his goals.

Of course he's going to fail in current environment, however in the past, I think he would have been far more successful.
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Yes, that's democracy, however to invoke Godwin, let's not forget that Hitler was voted to begin with.


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Well, then don't. None of those extremists is even close to Hitler and.....really? That is hilarious coming from someone with strong conservative views.

I would agree that Macron has disappointed biiiig time but there are a few reasons that apparently you can't grasp.
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Well, then don't. None of those extremists is close to Hitler and that is strange coming from someone with strong conservative views.
This from the person who refers to Vladimir Putin as "Putler"

Besides, my point wasn't to say that the current extreme fringes in France are like Hitler, rather that it was under similar stresses to democracy that Hitler was voted into power.
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This from the person who refers to Vladimir Putin as "Putler"
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And? Doesn't reflect reality or...? Should have said Put-lin? I think he's a fusion between Stalin and Hitler, judging by what's going on lately.
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