Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #401  
Old 11.07.2022, 00:50
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,657
Groaned at 769 Times in 650 Posts
Thanked 25,146 Times in 13,151 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

This joke is at least seven years old but is ever more appropriate.
Name:  timemachine.jpg
Views: 530
Size:  136.8 KB
Reply With Quote
The following 9 users would like to thank marton for this useful post:
This user groans at marton for this post:
  #402  
Old 11.07.2022, 09:54
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: na
Posts: 12,107
Groaned at 38 Times in 34 Posts
Thanked 29,369 Times in 8,965 Posts
meloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

At this point, I wish we were 'just' traveling back in time. But post Roe with some states enacting truly draconian laws with criminal penalties hanging over the heads of medical personnel and parameters largely undefined, this is a whole new world.

A friend is a nurse midwife in one such state. Half of her work is in a well-funded state-of-the-art ob-gyn clinic serving a wealthy population. The other half of the time she works pro bono at an inner city clinic, where funding is always uncertain, serving a very poor population.

Both clinics face legal uncertainty as to what type of care can be provided. What, or rather who, defines 'risk to life of the mother' cases? No one knows.

Any case where a miscarriage occurs, an ectopic pregnancy, a decision to save the mother that results in the loss of a fetus, could end up in court with the medical staff facing loss of certification at best, criminal prosecution at worst. And likely will, given zealous local prosecutors keen to make a name or score political points.

We are not talking about elective abortion here - we are talking about the ability to respond to a medical crisis that may arise during any pregnancy.

At the well-funded clinic, with an army of the best legal eagles money can buy, care will continue as per usual.

The free clinic is debating whether they can even continue to offer care in this new legal environment. They can't afford the potential legal costs.

If the free clinic has to stop offering ob-gyn care, once again the poorest segment bears a disproportionate burden brought on by the loss of Roe.

But yeah... far too many of our politicians have given the eleventh commandment priority in this brave new world: "Thou shalt not be poor".
Reply With Quote
The following 16 users would like to thank meloncollie for this useful post:
  #403  
Old 11.07.2022, 10:00
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Vaud
Posts: 963
Groaned at 210 Times in 138 Posts
Thanked 1,621 Times in 677 Posts
MattyRedSox has a reputation beyond reputeMattyRedSox has a reputation beyond reputeMattyRedSox has a reputation beyond reputeMattyRedSox has a reputation beyond reputeMattyRedSox has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Exactly.
Reply With Quote
  #404  
Old 11.07.2022, 10:17
Gil Gil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Zürich
Posts: 110
Groaned at 10 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 215 Times in 84 Posts
Gil has an excellent reputationGil has an excellent reputationGil has an excellent reputationGil has an excellent reputation
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
This joke is at least seven years old but is ever more appropriate.
Attachment 143935
A woman was flying back to the US, and asked the steward, "what's the time difference?" and the Steward answers "About 100 years"

I can remember when that joke used to be about Saudi
Reply With Quote
The following 8 users would like to thank Gil for this useful post:
  #405  
Old 11.07.2022, 10:25
itsjess's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Bellinzona, Ticino
Posts: 587
Groaned at 8 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 1,206 Times in 394 Posts
itsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
A pregnant woman in Texas told police that her unborn child counted as an additional passenger after being cited for driving alone in a high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lane... Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
Source
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank itsjess for this useful post:
  #406  
Old 11.07.2022, 11:30
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 19,082
Groaned at 845 Times in 659 Posts
Thanked 29,529 Times in 11,963 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
That's excellent!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #407  
Old 11.07.2022, 11:51
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Geneva
Posts: 2,130
Groaned at 272 Times in 180 Posts
Thanked 2,619 Times in 1,256 Posts
Biro has a reputation beyond reputeBiro has a reputation beyond reputeBiro has a reputation beyond reputeBiro has a reputation beyond reputeBiro has a reputation beyond reputeBiro has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post

Excellent, but where does it end......


If you're pregant do you need to pay for 2 tickets to fly or go to a ball game ?
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Biro for this useful post:
  #408  
Old 11.07.2022, 13:59
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 19,082
Groaned at 845 Times in 659 Posts
Thanked 29,529 Times in 11,963 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
Excellent, but where does it end......
Hopefully, in this case, it end with Texas changing its law about abortions being totally illegal apart from very few circumstances.


Quote:
View Post

If you're pregant do you need to pay for 2 tickets to fly or go to a ball game ?
Perhaps the Texans will say that you are not welcome at the ball game if you are pregnant?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #409  
Old 11.07.2022, 14:21
Ato Ato is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: ZH
Posts: 2,346
Groaned at 47 Times in 41 Posts
Thanked 4,804 Times in 1,898 Posts
Ato has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
Excellent, but where does it end......


If you're pregant do you need to pay for 2 tickets to fly or go to a ball game ?
I think children under a certain age are normally free. As to flying with an unborn child, I'm yet to see the certification for crash testing with a fetus/tiny human.
Reply With Quote
  #410  
Old 11.07.2022, 14:24
itsjess's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Bellinzona, Ticino
Posts: 587
Groaned at 8 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 1,206 Times in 394 Posts
itsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond reputeitsjess has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
I think children under a certain age are normally free. As to flying with an unborn child, I'm yet to see the certification for crash testing with a fetus/tiny human.
Crash testing doesn't even test for crash impacts on fully grown women

Source
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank itsjess for this useful post:
  #411  
Old 11.07.2022, 14:30
Ato Ato is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: ZH
Posts: 2,346
Groaned at 47 Times in 41 Posts
Thanked 4,804 Times in 1,898 Posts
Ato has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond reputeAto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
Crash testing doesn't even test for crash impacts on fully grown women

Source
That's valid for cars, however for aircraft the human is based on a 95th percentile male* from sometime in the 1960's. Hence the 75kg mass and the dimensions associated.

* Not just male. Military recruits aged 17-19.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Ato for this useful post:
  #412  
Old 11.07.2022, 14:31
TonyClifton's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Hopefully soon to be Aargau
Posts: 2,324
Groaned at 1,177 Times in 667 Posts
Thanked 5,964 Times in 2,687 Posts
TonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
I don’t think that will happen. The Supremes turned it back to the legislatures, ie the individual states or the Congress. I think, at best, he could issue an executive order permitting abortion on federal land in States where it would be otherwise prohibited. Such as military bases. He could also order that Federal organisations not assist in the implementation of any state law prohibiting abortions. Like the FBI, NSA, Homeland Security, IRS, etc.

Of course state law doesn’t necessarily apply on aboriginal land either.
This is exactly what will happen. The latest way the Biden administration apes the Trump administration by signing executive orders that will never be acted upon and will be struck down in the courts. Pure gesture politics.
Reply With Quote
This user groans at TonyClifton for this post:
  #413  
Old 11.07.2022, 19:37
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,657
Groaned at 769 Times in 650 Posts
Thanked 25,146 Times in 13,151 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

This will give us a much better idea of how much voters in a state support abortion, or not, a referendum on abortion instead of simply assuming they support abortion because they mostly voted Republican.
Quote:
Voters in Michigan are one step closer to deciding whether abortion remains legal in the swing state.

Abortion-rights activists who spent months gathering hundreds of thousands of signatures to put an abortion rights amendment on the November ballot brought well more than the amount required to the Secretary of State’s office on Monday, and say they’re confident the petition will be swiftly certified.

Last edited by marton; 12.07.2022 at 11:05.
Reply With Quote
  #414  
Old 12.07.2022, 08:03
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 23,715
Groaned at 467 Times in 363 Posts
Thanked 19,020 Times in 10,492 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Next battleground.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62124365

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61973510
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post:
  #415  
Old 12.07.2022, 18:26
kiwiguy08's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,468
Groaned at 220 Times in 156 Posts
Thanked 1,806 Times in 996 Posts
kiwiguy08 has a reputation beyond reputekiwiguy08 has a reputation beyond reputekiwiguy08 has a reputation beyond reputekiwiguy08 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
A woman was flying back to the US, and asked the steward, "what's the time difference?" and the Steward answers "About 100 years"

I can remember when that joke used to be about Saudi
was his name Jussie Smollet?
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users groan at kiwiguy08 for this post:
  #416  
Old 14.07.2022, 21:00
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,657
Groaned at 769 Times in 650 Posts
Thanked 25,146 Times in 13,151 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

They are just such an intensely creepy bunch of inhuman political chancers
Quote:
Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita (R) says he will be looking into the licensure of the physician who provided abortion services to a 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio who made national headlines after she traveled out of state to receive the procedure.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #417  
Old 14.07.2022, 21:22
komsomolez's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SZ
Posts: 4,456
Groaned at 494 Times in 353 Posts
Thanked 10,506 Times in 4,440 Posts
komsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
They are just such an intensely creepy bunch of inhuman political chancers
Scum.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post:
  #418  
Old 14.07.2022, 22:45
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 10,873
Groaned at 721 Times in 528 Posts
Thanked 14,892 Times in 7,802 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

Quote:
View Post
Crash testing doesn't even test for crash impacts on fully grown women

Source
It's just a tad difficult to design "female" dummies when you don't even know what the relevant differences are, let alone how to model them.

Trying to frame this as some sort of female oppression is at best nonsensical. And in itself sexist, btw.
Reply With Quote
  #419  
Old 14.07.2022, 23:03
Pancakes's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Zurich-ish
Posts: 6,379
Groaned at 526 Times in 364 Posts
Thanked 14,274 Times in 5,469 Posts
Pancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

It's hard for me to imagine that this won't push more people to vote Democrat. I won't be surprised if we see a lot more young women (and young men) voting in the next elections. Imagine a 14-year old boy accidentally getting his girlfriend pregnant and then having to pay child support for the next 18 years. I know this issue primarily affects women and woman's rights, but it does or can affect men as well.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post:
  #420  
Old 14.07.2022, 23:51
komsomolez's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SZ
Posts: 4,456
Groaned at 494 Times in 353 Posts
Thanked 10,506 Times in 4,440 Posts
komsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond reputekomsomolez has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Roe vrs. Wade

I said it before, these assholes are "principled" and "pro life" as long as their mistress does not turn up with an unwanted pregnancy.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
International Comedy Club with BOB MILLS & WADE McELWAIN in Zurich The Laundry Man Commercial events 13 26.09.2011 23:02
International Comedy Club with BOB MILLS & WADE McELWAIN in Basel The Laundry Man Commercial events 2 23.09.2011 09:41
International Comedy Club with BOB MILLS & WADE McELWAIN in Lausanne The Laundry Man Commercial events 0 30.08.2011 11:16
International Comedy Club with BOB MILLS & WADE McELWAIN in Geneva The Laundry Man Commercial events 0 30.08.2011 11:12


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:47.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0