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21.10.2022, 00:00
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Unfortunately China doesn't need AI tensor flow chips to blackmail the world. They're accelerating the buildup of nuclear warheads, missile silos and other launch platforms like never before and nobody knows why.
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21.10.2022, 16:23
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Yes. China's ambitions are best achieved through peaceful means only. | | | | |
Yes! They have a great tea politic. Every under developed land with valuable resources and or strategic locations is invited for tea and offered business deals that their leaders simply can't refuse. War is only a last resort but not out of the question.
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21.10.2022, 20:44
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | . . . our grandkids will be learning that Chairman Mao was a great leader. | | | | | Well, if you look at what the children are learning now, for example that babies are spat out of the womb and it is not clear what their sex/gender is/will be, then this society, if it is to endure this current trajectory into degeneracy, will need some new teachings. Maybe not Mao but definitely something substantial and quick too.
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24.10.2022, 10:26
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Probably closer to the truth than we would like to believe.
Judging by the way China is re-writing history, our grandkids will be learning that Chairman Mao was a great leader. | | | | | More likely Chairman Xi Jinping
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24.10.2022, 10:41
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Yes! They have a great tea politic. Every under developed land with valuable resources and or strategic locations is invited for tea and offered business deals that their leaders simply can't refuse. War is only a last resort but not out of the question. | | | | | Actually the offer for business includes substantial loans for building infrastructure with the help of Chinese companies. That effectively cements the relationship, in China’s favour.
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24.10.2022, 10:57
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Actually the offer for business includes substantial loans for building infrastructure with the help of Chinese companies. That effectively cements the relationship, in China’s favour. | | | | | China had a very good look at how we in the west treated the third world. Learned all the "economic hitman" lessons... and simply copied them. If anything are they screwing over the third world a little less than we in the west or the soviet union did before.
I find it somewhat amusing when third world leaders find out a decade later that the awesome harbor/highway/train system were totally oversized and financially idiotic... and then blame China for it. If I buy a car I cannot afford do I also not blame the bank.
The reason why African leaders love to deal with China is that they get a better deal than with the west and dont have to listen to lectures on human rights from the people who financially exploit them...
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24.10.2022, 10:58
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I have something to admit, and I feel very silly.
I've been trying to figure out how the US has weaponised its Lead (Pb), as opposed to the normal weaponised lead loaded into bullets. Then I thought is was to do with electrical use of lead in soldering and still it made no sense to me.
I've just realised it's their leading position lead, not the lead (Pb).
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24.10.2022, 15:15
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Well, if you look at what the children are learning now, for example that babies are spat out of the womb and it is not clear what their sex/gender is/will be, then this society, if it is to endure this current trajectory into degeneracy, will need some new teachings. Maybe not Mao but definitely something substantial and quick too. | | | | | Wow. It looks straight from the Russian propaganda.
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24.10.2022, 18:23
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Well, if you look at what the children are learning now, for example that babies are spat out of the womb and it is not clear what their sex/gender is/will be, then this society, if it is to endure this current trajectory into degeneracy, will need some new teachings. Maybe not Mao but definitely something substantial and quick too. | | | | | I believe it is good that children learn science and do not grow up to be scientifically ignorant.
This is not a simple topic.
Babies who inherit two X chromosomes typically develop as females, while babies with one X and one Y chromosome typically develop as males.
However, there are males with two X chromosomes; de la Chapelle syndrome.
There are females with one X and one Y chromosome; Swyer syndrome.
There are also humans with two X chromosomes and one Y chromosome so are intersex; Klinefelter syndrome.
It is not uncommon for babies to be born with both male and female characteristics (intersex), some countries immediately operate and others do not.
Science is not degeneracy.
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30.11.2022, 17:23
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Interesting to see how companies and countries are dealing with this. A lot of pressure now on Japan and NL to follow US lead and stop selling equipment to China - if US doesn't manage to pressure them, then US companies will simply lose market share to NL/JP ones.
I saw Nvidia also reduce specs of some of their latest products to fall under the limit. However, as this was done by reducing clock frequency, I would expect that China would be able to buy them and run the chips out of spec at higher clock frequencies to get the same 'pre-nerfed' performance.
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30.11.2022, 22:10
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Interesting to see how companies and countries are dealing with this | | | | | It may depend on whether China continues the "boiling the frog" slow ascent or Xi will have his Putin moment of impatience.
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30.11.2022, 22:12
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | It may depend on whether China continues the "boiling the frog" slow ascent or Xi will have his Putin moment of impatience. | | | | | IMO, Xi already overplayed his hand and started too many conflicts in too many places.
He should have kept it low-key, bided his time and paid off Trump.
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20.12.2022, 22:24
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Another case study of China catch-up the C919: in development since 2008 and just recently certified. With the ability to buy and integrate Western components and with the benefit of espionage, this still took 14 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919 | This user would like to thank Phil_MCR for this useful post: | | 
20.12.2022, 23:20
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | Another case study of China catch-up the C919: in development since 2008 and just recently certified. With the ability to buy and integrate Western components and with the benefit of espionage, this still took 14 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919 | | | | |
Wow! After spying on American business they have discovered the airplane.
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21.12.2022, 00:11
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Big in the news at the moment is that medicines are running out and politicians are slowly realizing that most cheap pharmaceuticals are „made in China“ and that we should become more independent from China. The Krankenkassen are ow being told to pay for the more expensive local produced stuff. And no prizes on guessing who will foot the Bill. So, it seems that along with farewell to cheap energy from Russia, it‘s goodbye to affordable healthcare.
I don’t understand, probably way to stupid for the 21st century, but the last 30-odd years of building relations and commerce and trade are being swept away before our very eyes.
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21.12.2022, 09:49
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"The talk that Roubini gives this time is unadulterated doom. He argues that world war three began in October, when the US blocked sales of many microchips to China. Trade hostilities will be far-reaching, because soon everything will have a chip." https://www.ft.com/content/b86825e3-...f-0e0c190bcbbb
WW3 was my first thought when I heard about the US chip embargo.
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21.12.2022, 10:19
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| | Re: US weaponises semiconductor lead | Quote: | |  | | | "The talk that Roubini gives this time is unadulterated doom. He argues that world war three began in October, when the US blocked sales of many microchips to China. Trade hostilities will be far-reaching, because soon everything will have a chip." https://www.ft.com/content/b86825e3-...f-0e0c190bcbbb
WW3 was my first thought when I heard about the US chip embargo. | | | | | Paywall protected.😞
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21.12.2022, 12:14
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In my view the trade hostilities all started with Trump. They've (unfortunately) been carried forward by Biden and still way overreaching this 'national security' theme. WW3 in trade is already there, still waiting on the Ukraine situation to play out, but its already involved with world players, so close already.
October is only the latest escalation in a series, more to come for sure.
[/B]QUOTE=Phil_MCR;3452364]"The talk that Roubini gives this time is unadulterated doom. He argues that world war three began in October, when the US blocked sales of many microchips to China. Trade hostilities will be far-reaching, because soon everything will have a chip." https://www.ft.com/content/b86825e3-...f-0e0c190bcbbb
WW3 was my first thought when I heard about the US chip embargo.[/QUOTE]
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