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I did but for some reason you keep going back to a comparison between men and women. I was talking about how women are treated…during protests but also generally. Are men affected by the regime? Unfortunately they are…it is also their choice when it comes to the way they treat women.
Funny…it is like we two have our own discussion in the middle of a thread going to Berlin
Because you can't take only one, you need to consider the whole picture. I've yet to see a feminist complain about the lack of mandatory military service here, and that for instance during the Iraq-Iran war a million Iranian men kicked the bucket but zero women. Same goes for any other war, when the shit hits the fan all demands for equality go silent. Modern feminism is all about privilege and advantage without the slightest responsibilities and duties, dirty or dangerous work is still expected to be performed by men only.
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Because you can't take only one, you need to consider the whole picture. I've yet to see a feminist complain about the lack of mandatory military service here, and that for instance during the Iraq-Iran war a million Iranian men kicked the bucket but zero women. Same goes for any other war, when the shit hits the fan all demands for equality go silent. Modern feminism is all about privilege and advantage without the slightest responsibilities and duties, dirty or dangerous work is still expected to be performed by men only.
And I’ve yet to see a pregnant man
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Old 08.01.2023, 18:17
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And I’ve yet to see a pregnant man
I think that's a good thing.

So many of my contemporary male friends now have a round beer belly that I least don't have to worry about making that faux-pas, "So when is it due?"
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Old 08.01.2023, 18:55
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Back from vacation and EF is doing just fine

A fireworks ban makes me sad because I really liked all the fireworks fellow Aargauers burnt on NYE. But, is anyone happy that the fireworks could be banned? I've read that poor dogs suffer with them. Somehow, dogs have not been mentioned yet.
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Old 08.01.2023, 19:00
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A fireworks ban makes me sad because I really liked all the fireworks fellow Aargauers burnt on NYE. But, is anyone happy that the fireworks could be banned? I've read that poor dogs suffer with them. Somehow, dogs have not been mentioned yet.
They don't need fireworks in the U.K.

Instead they have a Walrus stopping off in the U.K. on the way back to the Arctic Ocean, and performing a one-night only, one-walrus, solo-sex-show for New Years Eve revellers.

No video as NSFW.
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Old 08.01.2023, 19:41
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The creator of all the SVP fear posters was a German, Alexander Segert, who came to Switzerland as he thought the EU was too much like the Soviet Union.
It's no coincidence that he has also designed campaigns for Austria's far right party (anyone remember Jorg Häider of the FPÖ?).
When German Neo-Nazis stole his SVP minaret campaign he said he was flattered.
There's also an investigation into him doing leadlet drops in Germany for the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party - a party of right-wing extremists.

The fact that you can't see any of he brutality and feat-mongering in the posters he created is not really my problem but more one of your own.
Yet there was this poster



... which the Swiss SP campaigned with against an Initiative that had been launched by the SVP. They clearly smear them as Nazis, together with everybody who's for it (the DurchsetzungsInitiative).

It's quite remarkable that the Initiative's general thrust was the prevention of what this thread is about.
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And I’ve yet to see a pregnant man
So you really think freely deciding to fu.ck without protection is comparable to mandatory military service, a legal obligation you go to prison for in CH for 1-2 years if you're refusing to comply.

Don't be surprised if you're not taken seriously, or outright ridiculed.

But we digress (too far I believe)...
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Old 08.01.2023, 20:30
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Are you not sick of hearing yourself regarding your strange hate, disrespectful and perpetual taunting your views regarding your hate of women? I dare say that the rest of us are.
No, he is not....
Cross-referencing with another thread, on this forum

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It’s awfully repetitive in places.
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Old 08.01.2023, 20:41
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... which the Swiss SP campaigned with against an Initiative that had been launched by the SVP. They clearly smear them as Nazis, together with everybody who's for it (the DurchsetzungsInitiative).

It's quite remarkable that the Initiative's general thrust was the prevention of what this thread is about.
Ah, that was around the time when the President of the Young SVP was at a neo-Nazi rally at the Rütli meadow:

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Old 08.01.2023, 22:22
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Because you can't take only one, you need to consider the whole picture. I've yet to see a feminist complain about the lack of mandatory military service here, and that for instance during the Iraq-Iran war a million Iranian men kicked the bucket but zero women. Same goes for any other war, when the shit hits the fan all demands for equality go silent. Modern feminism is all about privilege and advantage without the slightest responsibilities and duties, dirty or dangerous work is still expected to be performed by men only.
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Old 08.01.2023, 22:35
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Ah, that was around the time when the President of the Young SVP was at a neo-Nazi rally at the Rütli meadow:
Is this the story you are refering to? Funny that you did not include the info that he immediately had to step down.

https://www.tagblatt.ch/schweiz/ruec...ttoo-ld.949563
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Old 09.01.2023, 09:57
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Is this the story you are refering to? Funny that you did not include the info that he immediately had to step down.
Of course he had to step down. The SVP is not a neo-Nazi party but it appears to attract those people.

However - He didn't resign because he attended a neo-Nazi rally.
He resigned because a newspaper found out that he had.

He wasn't just an SVP member - he was the president of the Young SVP.
His political inclination was pretty clear - he even had the Nazi SS motto tattooed on his forearm for all to see.
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Of course he had to step down. The SVP is not a neo-Nazi party but it appears to attract those people.
There's also the SD (Schweizer Demokraten) which are even more spicy than the SVP when it comes to the more right-leaning parties, although they are a bit more niche. Perhaps an equiv would be the BNP in the UK?
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Whatever.

My point was that SVP and AfD are totally different animals. The AfD is now officially under investigation by federal authorities as a potentially anti-constitutional party (= not accepting the principles of democracy and rule of law) and clearly has issues distancing itself from violent right-wing groups. The SVP is a very conservative, but democratic party that is a stable part of government. I don't have to like the SVP to be able to see that.
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oh well, good thing we're all lucky to live in CH where the SVP is the biggest party
I am glad for the SVP in Switzerland and believe a large part of Switzerland's over the past few decades has largely been down to the SVP influence. Keeping the country anchored in her conservative Christian values, support of supply-side economics, opposition to deficit spending and expansion of the State, resistance to a large the welfare state, skepticism of Swiss involvement in intergovernmental organisations.

One may baulk at some of their policies, members and poster campaigns, however the overall effect is a net positive. It shows the benefits of having a right-wing party which is taken seriously and not smeared as "Nazis". Compare this to the so called traditional conservatives in Western Europe in countries like France, UK, Germany and Sweden which have forgotten what conservative actually means. Hence the ongoing groupthink train crashes we're seeing there at the moment on matters such as migration, health systems, State spending etc.
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Old 09.01.2023, 11:15
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Whatever.

My point was that SVP and AfD are totally different animals. The AfD is now officially under investigation by federal authorities as a potentially anti-constitutional party (= not accepting the principles of democracy and rule of law) and clearly has issues distancing itself from violent right-wing groups. The SVP is a very conservative, but democratic party that is a stable part of government. I don't have to like the SVP to be able to see that.
My point earlier was that the designer of the brutalist SVP posters was also designing posters for the AfD, and he wants people to know - he even re-published a critical article about him in the NZZ on his own marketing company's website.
The article also suggests a Swiss connection with the AfD.

This is being investigated in Germany as it is against German democratic rules to receive finance from a foreign source.
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Old 09.01.2023, 11:20
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I am glad for the SVP in Switzerland and believe a large part of Switzerland's over the past few decades has largely been down to the SVP influence. Keeping the country anchored in her conservative Christian values, support of supply-side economics, opposition to deficit spending and expansion of the State, resistance to a large the welfare state, skepticism of Swiss involvement in intergovernmental organisations.
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Tony, what are conservative Christian values?
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Re: Germany NYE 2022

Meanwhile in Switzerland:

https://www.20min.ch/story/randale-i...n-511298104760

ZSC fans are throwing fireworks at cops. Rapperswil fans use fireworks to stop the ZSC team bus...
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So the new narrative of the state media is that police might have targeted immigrants so they are over-represented in the arrest figures ...

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-nye-vi...ion/a-64302310

"Police data on the perpetrators

On Tuesday, the Berlin Police Department said that of 145 people arrested in connection with the violence, 139 were male, two-thirds were under the age of 25, and 27 were minors. They have all been released.

Of the 145 arrested, 45 were reported to be German nationals, 27 Afghan, and 21 Syrian.

In Germany, one-quarter of the population has a so-called "migration background," meaning that they themselves or at least one of their parents was not born in the country. Among people under the age of 25, this number is higher. And in some urban areas such as Berlin's Neukölln district, around 40% of the population has such a "migration background".

The figures released by the Berlin police do not show whether the group of people who were arrested are actually representative of the group of people who took part in the violence — or whether specific groups were targeted for arrest.

"Whenever we have arrest data like this, we need to see that this data first and foremost reflects what the police did and who they arrested, not necessarily who the perpetrators were," Niklas Harder, the co-head of the Integration Department at the German Center for Integration and Migration Research (DeZIM) and an associate member of the Immigration Policy Lab at Stanford University told DW. "
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Meanwhile in Switzerland:

https://www.20min.ch/story/randale-i...n-511298104760

ZSC fans are throwing fireworks at cops. Rapperswil fans use fireworks to stop the ZSC team bus...
And...they're literally playing with fire. From fire risk in the arena to crowd crush if people starts panicking.

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Also during the game in the stadium, in which around 6100 people were present, pyrotechnics were ignited by individual masked fans of the ZSC Lions.
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