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Old 07.01.2023, 12:00
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A few years after the Wende- 93.

As said, I still have many friends there, we write and visit each other, we talk about the current situation. Although working in ex East Berlin, they grew up in Ribnitz, Rostock, Dresden- in the 70s and 80s. They experienced neo-nazis first hand- then, and now.

Have you ever been to Marzahn?
Yes. And all the other districts. I have a house in the south of Berlin.
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Have you ever been to Marzahn?
Have you never seen Cindy from Marzahn?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEaa...WE0ZlH&index=3
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Re: Germany NYE 2022

Ignore is just bliss.
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Re: Germany NYE 2022

thats how the lügenpresse and their supporters operate - emphasise any crimes or misdoings by german natives whilst trying to hide or obfuscate any problems with the migrant community.

its the same reason nobody really cared when those two german girls were being harassed on live tv.
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Old 07.01.2023, 12:28
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thats how the lügenpresse operates - emphasise any crimes or misdoings by german natives whilst trying to hide or obfuscate any problems with the migrant community.

its the same reason nobody really cared when those two german girls were being harassed on live tv.
I am deeply skeptical of the German "public" (state) media - but I woud never use this term as it firmly makes you AfD. Who - for all things that need to be said about immigration - is a bunch of neonazis by now. I respected them when they emerged as a Euro-sceptic, fiscally conservative party, but they have driven out all moderates.
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Old 07.01.2023, 14:04
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Ignore is just bliss.
The same could be said to you …

What do you suggest? Germany allows these gangs to grow and severe misbehavior because of the fear of far right nationalism? Allowing that will only cause more anger and more hatred and more far right nationalism.

But keep chatting with your playwright friends, I’m sure they know better.
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Old 07.01.2023, 14:18
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Re: Germany NYE 2022

It may indeed not just be a Berlin and immigrant problem. Party mob attacks police in 3000 people village in Franconia.

https://m.bild.de/regional/muenchen/...ildMobile.html
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Not at all SusieQ. All violence should be addressed and dealt with- but it does seem evident in many places, that it is easier to blame immigrants and only deal with any violence or bad behaviour coming from groups of them. Same old, same old.

Where I lived in the UK, we were very aware, as teacher/doctor, that poor Indians, mainly from Bangladesh, were exploited by rich groups of Indians from other parts, mainly ex Ungandan asians, in a way British employers would have never got away with. Whenever we tried to point this out, through education boards, social services, etc- we were told nothing could be done as it would appear to be racist! It all finally came out during Covid- as those employers continued to make Bengali and other workers work in sweatshops throughout. They were caught, and not dealt with severely enough, but at least it was highlighted and acknowledged.
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Old 07.01.2023, 17:03
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I agree with everything you said but I still believe we talk about two different things
Possible, though unfortunately you don't explain. As far as the theocratic regime goes, I'm pretty sure the men are affected as well.
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Old 07.01.2023, 19:18
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Possible, though unfortunately you don't explain. As far as the theocratic regime goes, I'm pretty sure the men are affected as well.
I did but for some reason you keep going back to a comparison between men and women. I was talking about how women are treated…during protests but also generally. Are men affected by the regime? Unfortunately they are…it is also their choice when it comes to the way they treat women.
Funny…it is like we two have our own discussion in the middle of a thread going to Berlin
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I am deeply skeptical of the German "public" (state) media - but I woud never use this term as it firmly makes you AfD. Who - for all things that need to be said about immigration - is a bunch of neonazis by now. I respected them when they emerged as a Euro-sceptic, fiscally conservative party, but they have driven out all moderates.
oh well, good thing we're all lucky to live in CH where the SVP is the biggest party
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Old 08.01.2023, 11:26
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oh well, good thing we're all lucky to live in CH where the SVP is the biggest party
SVP and AfD are two very different things.
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Old 08.01.2023, 11:34
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SVP and AfD are two very different things.
if the SVP was in germany they would also be labelled as nazis. imagine the black sheep posters!
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Old 08.01.2023, 11:38
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if the SVP was in germany they would also be labelled as nazis.

They certainly like the same sort of symbolism with red-black and white marketing and campaigns.
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Re: Germany NYE 2022

they also have the friendly sunshine smiley face

but in a country like germany which has a pathological need to atone for their historical sins they would be labelled as 'nazis'.
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Old 08.01.2023, 12:39
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But who gets in the Press BM- those neo-nazis still throwing petrol bombs at refugee centres, constantly threatening, abusing, kids, women, families of immigrants, in the streets, the trains, at school, work, sports venues, etc, etc, and provoking responses from groups of young men- the neo-nazis, or the immigrants?
I think that largely depends on which press sources you read.

I have seen plenty of reporting on neo-nazis and there actions but I have also seen plenty regarding the problems associated with immigrants.

I try to read news from a variety of sources in order to get a more balanced view of what’s happening in the world.

I suppose people who have a tendency to read more right wing media will get a different picture from those who read more left wing media.
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Old 08.01.2023, 13:04
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They certainly like the same sort of symbolism with red-black and white marketing and campaigns.
Not sure why you groaned this point I made, Kommoselez? The similarity between SVP and Nazi campaigns has been noted in several publications.

Do you think it's just coincidence? I think not.

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Not sure why you groaned this point I made, Kommoselez? The similarity between SVP and Nazi campaigns has been noted in several publications.
because he wants to live in a society ran by the SVP but still wants to act disgusted when his compatriots vote for the AfD.
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Old 08.01.2023, 14:49
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Re: Germany NYE 2022

Black-white-red were the colours of Imperial Germany since 1871, not a Nazi invention. Red and white have been the colours of Switzerland forever. Using black as a proxy for threats in this colour scheme seems quite intuitive.

If any of you had any clue about the AfD or the German far-right, you would not write this nonsense.
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Old 08.01.2023, 15:34
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Black-white-red were the colours of Imperial Germany since 1871, not a Nazi invention. Red and white have been the colours of Switzerland forever. Using black as a proxy for threats in this colour scheme seems quite intuitive.

If any of you had any clue about the AfD or the German far-right, you would not write this nonsense.
Firstly, I never wrote they were a Nazi invention - as indeed the Swastika wasn't either.
I also never wrote that the SVP was a neo-Nazi party incase you inferred that too.

The posters have been designed to instill fear in people. This is pretty much accepted.

The creator of all the SVP fear posters was a German, Alexander Segert, who came to Switzerland as he thought the EU was too much like the Soviet Union.
It's no coincidence that he has also designed campaigns for Austria's far right party (anyone remember Jorg Häider of the FPÖ?).
When German Neo-Nazis stole his SVP minaret campaign he said he was flattered.
There's also an investigation into him doing leadlet drops in Germany for the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party - a party of right-wing extremists.

The fact that you can't see any of he brutality and feat-mongering in the posters he created is not really my problem but more one of your own.
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