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23.01.2023, 21:23
| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | The comment on women not knowing enough about shaving the "fine and exquisite contours of the male face" was also for laughs.
No one can write that without irony and with a straight face  | | | | | Maybe it was not about the male face. Shaving your balls with a shaving knife requires some skill (and courage).
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23.01.2023, 23:22
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Late to this thread. I watched some clips of his. The guy is a weapons-grade jerk, as is anybody who has the slightest sympathy for anything he says or does.
Nothing to debate, really.
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23.01.2023, 23:33
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | Late to this thread. I watched some clips of his. The guy is a weapons-grade jerk, as is anybody who has the slightest sympathy for anything he says or does.
Nothing to debate, really. | | | | | I agree 100%. Someone decided to give him a bit more celebrity.....so here we are. | 
23.01.2023, 23:55
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | Maybe it was not about the male face. Shaving your balls with a shaving knife requires some skill (and courage). | | | | | I'm reminded of the Jasper Carrot vasectomy sketch. Look it up.
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24.01.2023, 07:19
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | I agree 100%. Someone decided to give him a bit more celebrity.....so here we are. | | | | | And he‘s a slaphead. Too bad makers of chrome polish will be avoiding sponsorships.
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24.01.2023, 10:29
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | What's an internet forum without it's own basket of deplorables? | | | | | I guess we'll never find out! There isn't such a thing as an internet forum without that basket...
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24.01.2023, 10:41
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | I guess we'll never find out! There isn't such a thing as an internet forum without that basket... | | | | | There is a social phenomenon I call the Muppet Ratio. It means that as the number of a group of people assembled for an interaction or activity increases, you are destined to get muppets.
The Muppet Ratio isn't fixed, but is usually 1 muppet per 20-30 non-muppets.
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24.01.2023, 14:30
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | The Muppet Ratio isn't fixed, but is usually 1 muppet per 20-30 non-muppets. | | | | | Unless it's the UK government of course. | 
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | I'm reminded of the Jasper Carrot vasectomy sketch. Look it up. | | | | | https://youtu.be/qKJNylS3wVw | 
25.01.2023, 10:09
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | Late to this thread. I watched some clips of his. The guy is a weapons-grade jerk, as is anybody who has the slightest sympathy for anything he says or does. | | | | | i think this is why they're having troubles in the school because obviously not everything he says is wrong - he might make some banal yet un-PC point like "men are atronger than women" and when some rabid feminists will argue against this obvious point who are young boys going to agree with?
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25.01.2023, 10:18
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | i think this is why they're having troubles in the school because obviously not everything he says is wrong - he might make some banal yet un-PC point like "men are atronger than women" and when some rabid feminists will argue against this obvious point who are young boys going to agree with? | | | | | Are men physically stronger than women? On average yes. Emotionally stronger? No, not even close.
The problem is, it is the context with which he quotes such "facts". Strength doesn't give right to be dominant, nor does weakness predicate subservience.
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25.01.2023, 10:18
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | he might make some banal yet un-PC point like "men are atronger than women" and when some rabid feminists will argue against this obvious point who are young boys going to agree with? | | | | |
He doesnt make some banal comments, he makes many dangerous comments and normalizes very dangerous behaviour. Dressing them up in etiquette doesnt make them ok. A female disagreeing with him, doesnt make her a "rabid feminist" (really that is an awful statement vushka)
I think it does highlight, though, that the wave of people influenced by him are missing a role model. He is filling a void for them. It is a pity that the more sane are not listened to, but the irony is they are less likey to push their agenda on a social media platform.
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25.01.2023, 10:26
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | i think this is why they're having troubles in the school because obviously not everything he says is wrong - he might make some banal yet un-PC point like "men are atronger than women" and when some rabid feminists will argue against this obvious point who are young boys going to agree with? | | | | | I don't think you can even argue whether it's "un-PC" or not. Sweeping statements are often risky ground to try to argue because they're so easy to blow huge holes into them. And you don't need to be a "rabid feminist" either, just have a pinch of critical thought.
We have a wiry little fella in our legal department and I wouldn't fancy his chances against even the most moderately robust lady if she wanted to take him down. | The following 2 users would like to thank ShirleyNot for this useful post: | | 
25.01.2023, 10:43
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | Are men physically stronger than women? On average yes. | | | | | which is obviously what he means, and when people try to make it more obtuse it appears they are arguing against an obvious reality.
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25.01.2023, 10:46
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | He doesnt make some banal comments, he makes many dangerous comments and normalizes very dangerous behaviour. | | | | | i think he makes both.
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25.01.2023, 10:57
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | I think it does highlight, though, that the wave of people influenced by him are missing a role model. He is filling a void for them. It is a pity that the more sane are not listened to, but the irony is they are less likey to push their agenda on a social media platform. | | | | | He had a very aggressive marketing scheme and had asked his followers to distribute his messages on every social media as much as they could because he runs a pyramid scheme scam so "the wave" is really gullible people being programmed through social media.
Some definitely are missing a role model, but some are simply influenced by the "role models" that we see in the mass media of all kinds: football players, starlets, socialites i.e. people who appear on every tv channel but nobody knows what they actually do, reality shows like Kardashians etc etc
Nobody promotes sane models for youth anymore.
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25.01.2023, 11:02
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | i think this is why they're having troubles in the school because obviously not everything he says is wrong - he might make some banal yet un-PC point like "men are atronger than women" and when some rabid feminists will argue against this obvious point who are young boys going to agree with? | | | | | I've had the chance to compete endurance running and MTB downhill. There was men and women and age categories. If I did not finish in top 3 in MTB, a woman would be faster. If I did not finish in top 5 in running, a woman would be faster.
So, a few men are stronger/faster than women, but you have to be in the top % of men. If I compete today, I don't think I could be faster than top woman hahaha
The problem is that below average men tend to imagine themselves as top 1% of men and that's the reason they think they're "stronger than women". But, below average men it's already half of us
The other issue is that there's a lot of people out there who has never compared their abilities to others (competed), that's why they believe to be strong.
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25.01.2023, 11:04
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | He had a very aggressive marketing scheme and had asked his followers to distribute his messages on every social media as much as they could because he runs a pyramid scheme scam so "the wave" is really gullible people being programmed through social media. | | | | |
This. His followers are being manipulated. They dont even realize it. Putting aside the dangerous activities they might carry out under his tutelage, they themselves are being hustled by him and are targets of a pyramid scheme.
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25.01.2023, 11:27
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| | Re: Andrew and Tristan Tate | Quote: | |  | | | Are men physically stronger than women? On average yes. Emotionally stronger? No, not even close. | | | | | Some women are above average in strength, like myself, and it has always been fun to see men's faces when they say I can't do something.
My most favorite memory was throwing a football on the beach with the nephew of one of the most famous quarterbacks in the US ... I could throw the ball much further and accurately than him, despite his obvious physical fitness and training.
Women also have a higher pain tolerance threshold - my male friend had to have a helicopter ambulance called for a weaker version of a knee injury that I recently sustained, while I walked uphill for over 1 km to get help.
I guess discussing real stories and situations makes me a rabid feminist ... any feminist with sense knows men usually have far more muscle and strength than the average woman.
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25.01.2023, 11:37
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It's all so relative !
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