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Old 25.01.2023, 10:50
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Women also have a higher pain tolerance threshold
More correctly women generally have a higher pain tolerance threshold. Some individual men may have a higher pain tolerance than some individual women.

Me, I'm like this guy.

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More correctly women generally have a higher pain tolerance threshold. Some individual men may have a higher pain tolerance than some individual women.
Historically, only men were subjected to pain-tolerance testing.


Recently, women have been included in these studies and it has been shown that men actually have the higher tolerance to pain.

However, women have more consistence in pain tolerance over time than men.

So basically, new research indicates that at times, men are really sometimes big girls blouses when it comes to pain.

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Women often get misdiagnosed when they are having, for example, a heart attack and a man with comparable symptoms would get treated faster.

One reason for the lack of data on womens' pain is the laws that have prevented such testing on women of child-bearing age.

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I don't think you can even argue whether it's "un-PC" or not. Sweeping statements are often risky ground to try to argue because they're so easy to blow huge holes into them.
"men can't get pregnant"
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"men can't get pregnant"
Thank you for stating the obvious.
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"men can't get pregnant"
You should become an influencer, flower.
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Thank you for stating the obvious.
but if andrew tate was to state this and some woke teacher or adult was to argue against this obvious fact (as has happened on this forum recently), who are most of the kids going to listen to? this is my point.
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but if andrew tate was to state this and some woke teacher or adult was to argue against this obvious fact (as has happened on this forum recently), who are most of the kids going to listen to? this is my point.

Someone else who is not promoting mysognistic, violent, even criminal behaviour. It is not an either or. Not buying into the "work teacher or adult" does not mean or excuse signing up to andrew tate's views or gospel.


As greenmount points out above, tate heavily markets and targets these kids. Kids pushing back on adults in their world (woke or not) is so normal and correct as part of their developement. We all did it to some degree. Andrew tate is manipulating that.
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Someone else who is not promoting mysognistic, violent, even criminal behaviour.
but by arguing against an obvious truth only because of the person who said it gives him credibility. that's part of the problem.
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but by arguing against an obvious truth only because of the person who said it gives him credibility. that's part of the problem.

Its not. It doesn't automatically give him credibility. Its called critical thinking. Most of his audience is only developing that skill, and he depends on that.



If I say 9 incorrect things and then one correct albeit "un-PC" statement. The 9 incorrect things do not become correct. If I draw your attention to the 10th statement and highlight the controversy it is causing and there by implying my other 9 statements are correct. I am manipulating you.
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but if andrew tate was to state this and some woke teacher or adult was to argue against this obvious fact (as has happened on this forum recently), who are most of the kids going to listen to? this is my point.
It's not being "woke" to look at something critically and nuanced, is it?

Probably you are correct that a male-born man can't carry a child but that's not the realistic society we live in. Female-born transitioning men can be pregnant. Yes, you can argue that they aren't women or aren't men or whatever 1-dimensional thought process you want to lead kids into, but kids are naturally open for looking at things in more than one way. Unless you want to crush it, obvs.

Being in denial about a changing society is the shortest route to becoming irrelevant. There's a reason why these "influencers" have an incredibly short shelf-life. Especially if they are aggressively rigid in their outlook.

Accepting stuff doesn't mean you have to agree with it.
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Old 25.01.2023, 13:10
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Thank you for stating the obvious.
Well it isn't as obvious as you think, at least from marton's pov

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I was verbally assaulted by one of Tateís followers last night on Reddit - I wasnít even discussing feminism, but sports medicine and we disagreed in what I thought was a normal debate. This guy then went to my personal profile and saw Iím menopausal & own a cat, and then proceeded to insult me cruelly based on gender stereotypes from the tiny information I have on myself in my Reddit profile. He also said he would like to annihilate all women my age and then concluded by talking about his genetic and physical superiority as a 20 something year old male.

I wasnít offended in the slightest, but I am very concerned. On one hand we have young people who are very concerned (perhaps at times too concerned) with being good human beings, and on the other we have some who are just flat out dangerous. These polarizing extremes keep me up at night sometimes Ö
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Old 25.01.2023, 13:24
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I was verbally assaulted by one of Tateís followers last night on Reddit - I wasnít even discussing feminism, but sports medicine and we disagreed in what I thought was a normal debate. This guy then went to my personal profile and saw Iím menopausal & own a cat, and then proceeded to insult me cruelly based on gender stereotypes from the tiny information I have on myself in my Reddit profile. He also said he would like to annihilate all women my age and then concluded by talking about his genetic and physical superiority as a 20 something year old male.

I wasnít offended in the slightest, but I am very concerned. On one hand we have young people who are very concerned (perhaps at times too concerned) with being good human beings, and on the other we have some who are just flat out dangerous. These polarizing extremes keep me up at night sometimes Ö
I am sorry that you made that experience, this is one of the reasons I keep away from reddit.
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Old 25.01.2023, 13:27
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I am sorry that you made that experience, this is one of the reasons I keep away from reddit.
Thanks so much, it is really OK, I gots thick skin. Honestly, Iíve never experienced that before on Reddit and Iím an avid user. The Swiss sub is actually the meanest one on there in my experience, they hate expats / especially Americans hehe.
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I was verbally assaulted by one of Tate’s followers last night on Reddit - I wasn’t even discussing feminism, but sports medicine and we disagreed in what I thought was a normal debate. This guy then went to my personal profile and saw I’m menopausal & own a cat, and then proceeded to insult me cruelly based on gender stereotypes from the tiny information I have on myself in my Reddit profile. He also said he would like to annihilate all women my age and then concluded by talking about his genetic and physical superiority as a 20 something year old male.

I wasn’t offended in the slightest, but I am very concerned. On one hand we have young people who are very concerned (perhaps at times too concerned) with being good human beings, and on the other we have some who are just flat out dangerous. These polarizing extremes keep me up at night sometimes …
If it wasn't so vile, you'd almost feel sorry for them. Clearly got major issues.

It's with eye-watering irony that he comes across as someone who's been under pressure from a "father figure" encouraging him to be a "man's man".
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I was verbally assaulted by one of Tateís followers last night on Reddit - I wasnít even discussing feminism, but sports medicine and we disagreed in what I thought was a normal debate. This guy then went to my personal profile and saw Iím menopausal & own a cat, and then proceeded to insult me cruelly based on gender stereotypes from the tiny information I have on myself in my Reddit profile. He also said he would like to annihilate all women my age and then concluded by talking about his genetic and physical superiority as a 20 something year old male.

I wasnít offended in the slightest, but I am very concerned. On one hand we have young people who are very concerned (perhaps at times too concerned) with being good human beings, and on the other we have some who are just flat out dangerous. These polarizing extremes keep me up at night sometimes Ö
Can you post a link?
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Can you post a link?
Why would I do that Tony? I like to keep some things separate - this is an anonymous site.

Are you trying to say you don’t believe me? Would you like my name and address too?
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Why would I do that Tony? I like to keep some things separate.

Are you trying to say you donít believe me? Would you like my name and address too?
There's always two sides to every story that's all. At the moment we're expected to judge Andrew Tate on little more than your lived experience from one of his ostensible followers from another forum.
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There's always two sides to every story that's all. At the moment we're expected to judge Andrew Tate on little more than your lived experience from one of his ostensible followers from another forum.
Indeed, we're on chapter 1 of the Romanian prosecutor's story
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At the moment we're expected to judge Andrew Tate on little more than your lived experience from one of his ostensible followers from another forum.

I havent seen anyone ask you to do that. I would recommend you judge Andrew Tate based on his public content.
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