Sorry to hear this. Do you think there'd be any chance of his teachers addressing the issue, as they appear to be doing in the UK?

Found these, for whatever they're worth.

How to talk to your children about Andrew Tate and online misogyny

How Parents Can Negate Andrew Tate

Now I will go smoke one.

Tom

He's a walking talking Fox News and the like parrot - that kind of crap is all over the US. Men going to "boxing" camps where they can grunt and regain their masculinity that was never ever under a threat.

Demanding equality and respect has never meant taken away their manhood, allowing other people to choose to identify however they want to be isn't taking away their masculinity either - it is allowing those people to be fully themselves just like they want to be.

So being aware of social injustice and issues is worse than raping teenage girls?

Would I be concerned if I was not aware? Would I invite him to make personal inquiry into his response to social programming if I was not aware?

Taking the opportunity to have a meaningful conversation about it is intervention. I can't forbid him from feeling or thinking. I can only provide an example of what we feel it means to be a successful human being. He sees how I treat his mother, or anyone else for that matter and I hope that this is what provides the yardstick.

The trick to teenagers is to plant seeds of longevity, that when watered will sprout in a way that he can claim as his. Patience is required, as well as faith in your own teachings as an adult that he will find the best way to grow through is process.

Have you ever come up against the absolute genius of a 16 year old?

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No, and I apologize if I seemed judgmental in my comment.

I am concerned about how a well raised young man with a good example such as yourself could possibly be into Andrew Tate.

I'm taking a subversive approach to his intrigue, as the articles state, take the opportunity to question and have a meaningful conversation. It doesn't help saying "this guy's a f****ing a-hole, how can you believe this crap" - that's not going to fly. It will most likely fan the flames of interest.

I have faith that there's an intelligent way to provide an argument against by careful inquiry into why he's intrigued, what Tate is feeding off, where his oxygen supply comes from etc.

I can only encourage the youngster to learn to ask the right question and to listen deeper than he feels his intuition goes.

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Perhaps your can play the recording of Andrew Tate telling his victim how much he enjoyed raping her and then ask him what he thinks about that?

Teenagers have rebelled since time immemorial and it's part of finding out their boundaries and who they are.

Having said that, Tate seems to be taking the concept of "anti-woke" and "freedom of speech" and spinning it to his own advantage. Teenagers see and hear so many examples from seemingly "moderate" adults decrying the "woke culture" and championing everyone's freedom of speech, no matter what is said, and kids don't see where the limit is, hence the draw to Tate.

I think this is why he became popular recently. It runs a rough parallel timeline with this perceived "war on woke".

If you teach kids that they are somehow weak if they show humanity, moderation and compassion, that's the point they see legitimacy in the likes of Tate.

Generally speaking, not necessarily about Traubert's son, there are a lot of young males, especially teens, who feel lonely and rejected and hear all these anti-feminist comments and they lack the filter to discern through all the garbage info they're fed with. And there comes this guy who tells them the feminism is toxic and the cause of their inadjustments and it's cool to be like him..
Teens rebel. Parents are all old people who had it much easier.....in their view. Somehow they're right, we haven't been confronted with so many issues they're confronting themselves now.

It's OK, I hear you. It's alarming to witness. I too was quite stunned, however I appreciate that the youngster can speak his mind and expose himself when he knows we vehemently disagree. We emphasize communication, the kids can talk about anything without judgement or being shut down.

I hope that goodness percolates through his teenage armour and that having to work his way out of the quagmire will empower him by being his own autonomous teacher.

I would agree. Confrontation / making things taboo usually has the opposite effect. You have to work "with" teenagers" rather than against them. Perhaps you could get the assistance of some of his female peers to explain why Tate and those like him are so repulsive?

I have.

In the age of tech, photoshop, audioshop, deep-fakes, online crusades against 'underdogs' - the response is that it's either negative spin, fake or take out of context.

A more careful, intelligent and subversive way must be taken.

Same reason that they can be into Jesus, or any other such person.

Tom

I'm sorry, but normal teenage rebellion does not encompass supporting someone who's entire platform based on the most foul kind of misogyny. It isn't like he is a musician, that's what he is famous for - and boxing I believe, but wasn't successful enough to be known just for that.

I don't know why because the guy cannot even drive manual, not a real man

No, but sometimes we need to tread lightly lest they rebel against your disapproval. Slowly, slowly catchee monkey.

BTDT.

My kids made it to adulthood, because I did so.

They lost their mother when they were 10/12, now 30/32.

Tom

P.S. Their wimpy German Swiss brothers morfed into being very large and macho dudes, hockey and downhill biking!

Perception is everything. Some teens are probably perceiving him as some successful alpha male....

Anyways. I've asked my nephew if he heard of Andrew Tate. "That idiot? lol". "Yeah I've heard, he's a cretin and his audience are all cretins like him."
My respect (and love) for him grew exponentially....I knew he'd never admire or like this type of persons but I really had to ask.
So....not all is lost.

I understand and admire you - I would be absolutely mental, which I'm sure would do no good.

All the best to you, truly.