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Neither can I. Even with frequent stops to visit places I would find it unbearable after the first couple of weeks I think.

Imagine being stuck for all that time with a load of insufferable people!
But you keep coming back to EF?
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Re: alternative to old people's home?

What if there should be a pandemic again?
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What if there should be a pandemic again?
A single torpedo should do the job.
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You are Swiss ?
Think that she has been away so long that she has forgotten.

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What if there should be a pandemic again?
Remember the first big rise in Covid-19 cases occurred on board the Diamond Princess back in January 2020 with the ship being quarantined, it suffered a total of 712 confirmed cases of Covid-19.

Wiki - The Covid-19 pandemic aboard the Diamond Pricess
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You are Swiss ?
Pardon? What is the relevance of this? OH worked with many places that used to be called 'old peoples homes' many moons ago, but for the past couple of decades this has been considered ageist and old fashioned, and these places are now called 'care homes'. My nationality (double) s perfectly irrelevant here.
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Old 05.03.2023, 23:26
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Pardon? What is the relevance of this? OH worked with many places that used to be called 'old peoples homes' many moons ago, but for the past couple of decades this has been considered ageist and old fashioned, and these places are now called 'care homes'. My nationality (double) s perfectly irrelevant here.
Ageist LOL!

They are homes for old people, changing the name does not change the reality.

Anyway I doubt the new name is popular or in regular use, even the ex-health Secretary Matt Hancock still refers to them as old people's homes as recently as a couple of months ago, even Government publications (page 27) still call them old peoples homes.

Most people I know in the UK still call them old peoples homes.

Calling them care homes just gives the UK Government an excuse to fill them with homeless young people and others instead of old people who have contributed to the UK economy their whole lives.
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Re: alternative to old people's home?

Semantics, and not important. But having so many people among family and friends who either work for such establishments, or as 'in-mates', I know that the use of OAP home is not used any longer, as I was put right by a friend recently who works in this 'business' (and it is a very lucrative one, most are private btw).
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Re: alternative to old people's home?

Jumping into the semantics debate, from a US perspective.

Today you would preferably refer to the various facilities as:

Nursing home or rehabilitation center (Pflegeheim)
Active Retirement community (Age-restricted independent living)
Senior residence, senior community, (Altersheim, often with independent and assisted living options)
Assisted living residence (Altersheim with a higher care need)
Memory care facility (Alzheimer’s or Demential care facility)
Hospice, which might be offered in any of the above, at the family home, or in a purpose designed facility.

Yes, it is semantics… but honestly, having navigated these waters I do think semantics are important here. Anything that attempts to bring some measure of dignity back into elder care is valuable. And as we all may someday find out, dignity in aging is key.
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Old 06.03.2023, 13:15
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Senior residence, senior community, (Altersheim, often with independent and assisted living options)
As I understand it, in Switzerland a "Seniorenresidenz" in is a luxury establishment, usually with larger rooms, sometimes suites, with more options to bring one's own furniture, and often with a greater range of activities provided, such as concert recitals and literature readings in the residence halls.
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Just to add to your list:

As I understand it, in Switzerland a "Seniorenresidenz" in is a luxury establishment, usually with larger rooms, sometimes suites, with more options to bring one's own furniture, and often with a greater range of activities provided, such as concert recitals and literature readings in the residence halls.
Not necessarily. The local, public Altersheim bills itself as Seniorenresidenz. FYI, much of the above is available, especially activities, thanks to local volunteers. But it is still a public facility, nice but not in the same category as the luxury places.

Which is why one needs to research any place/option carefully. What is offered, from facilities, to care, to activities, to everything, will vary widely.
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Not necessarily. The local, public Altersheim bills itself as Seniorenresidenz. FYI, much of the above is available, especially activities, thanks to local volunteers. But it is still a public facility, nice but not in the same category as the luxury places.

Which is why one needs to research any place/option carefully. What is offered, from facilities, to care, to activities, to everything, will vary widely.
My daughter has been giving piano recitals in a local public Seniorenresidenz since she was 6 y.o, organised by her then music teacher, with many other really good musicians. All voluntarily. The events are completely full, and the residents love them.
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Re: alternative to old people's home?

What about retiring disgracefully to Holmfirth in West Yorkshire where who knows ? those over a certain age might find 'the love of their life' with Nora Batty.


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Not necessarily. The local, public Altersheim bills itself as Seniorenresidenz. FYI, much of the above is available, especially activities, thanks to local volunteers. But it is still a public facility, nice but not in the same category as the luxury places.

Which is why one needs to research any place/option carefully. What is offered, from facilities, to care, to activities, to everything, will vary widely.
All Care Homes here have their own staff to organise acitivities, with most provided in house by staff, as well as those offered by volunteers and associations, normally organised with the official staff- as well as regular outings for those who wish to go on trips, meals out, etc.

More and more, half-way places are being offered too, where people have their own unit/appartment, with own kitchen, room and bathroom, and lounge area- but with access to meals in the common area, and activities, medical care and emergency cover. Very very popular currently.
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All Care Homes here have their own staff to organise acitivities, with most provided in house by staff, as well as those offered by volunteers and associations, normally organised with the official staff- as well as regular outings for those who wish to go on trips, meals out, etc.

More and more, half-way places are being offered too, where people have their own unit/appartment, with own kitchen, room and bathroom, and lounge area- but with access to meals in the common area, and activities, medical care and emergency cover. Very very popular currently.
I am very often not sure what you mean by „here“. Do you have a link to the „half-way“ places? Interesting.

Am always looking at ways to reduce my burden on my child if I should need it.
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Re: alternative to old people's home?

IN the Netherlands it is called a aanleunwoning. It is near a retirement home (of whatever whoever wants to call that).
You have access to the care facilities of the home but still have your own place. You can also use services for shopping or meals etc etc
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I am very often not sure what you mean by „here“. Do you have a link to the „half-way“ places? Interesting.

Am always looking at ways to reduce my burden on my child if I should need it.
https://gracieuse.ch/en/

The Domaine de Gracieuse in Lonay is one.
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https://gracieuse.ch/en/

The Domaine de Gracieuse in Lonay is one.
Thanks. Didn‘t ask for a quote, but I think that would add more burden onto my child, rather than reduce it .
The idea of living when you get older, in Switzerland, and need assistance, seems to get a bit more obscure bit by bit.
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IN the Netherlands it is called a aanleunwoning. It is near a retirement home (of whatever whoever wants to call that).
You have access to the care facilities of the home but still have your own place. You can also use services for shopping or meals etc etc
It used to be called sheltered housing in the UK, no idea what they’ve decided to call it these days.
My grandmother lived in one for a few years.
She never needed the care facilities but very much enjoyed the group activities in the common room and had emergency pull cords in every room so she could have alerted staff should she have needed to.
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It used to be called sheltered housing in the UK, no idea what they’ve decided to call it these days.
My grandmother lived in one for a few years.
She never needed the care facilities but very much enjoyed the group activities in the common room and had emergency pull cords in every room so she could have alerted staff should she have needed to.
Assisted living.
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