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Old 12.10.2008, 22:49
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Re: Joerg Haider dies in car accident

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NBP makes Jörg Haider sound like he was Swiss, not Austrian.
And yet if I said it made Haider sound more like he was American, I dare you'd be mortally offended...
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Actually most analysts think that Haider's passing has made an FPÖ participation in the next government less likely. BZÖ is now less able to mediate between FPÖ and one of the two ruling parties. It seems like Austria will get the same passive government one more time. A bit better than the alternative though.
As far as I know the OEVP is in coallition talks with the SPOE - the FPOE and BZOE are still in dispute (due to the personality clash Haider vs. Strache) and for this reason not have been able to join a collision with the OEVP.

To be valid, %wise, to form a government there are only the alternatives:
- OEVP & SPOE
- OEVP & FPOE & BZOE


But I would really prefer if the situation is as described by you

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Old 13.10.2008, 07:37
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Old 15.10.2008, 15:17
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Re: Joerg Haider dies in car accident

Haider's blood alcohol was 0.18% (German article).
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Old 15.10.2008, 15:28
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Haider's blood alcohol was 0.18% (German article).
And in English
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Old 15.10.2008, 15:36
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And yet if I said it made Haider sound more like he was American, I dare you'd be mortally offended...
Nah, not mortally. It just would've provoked another comment about Haider not being too far from some Swiss politicians ... for example:

http://www.20min.ch/news/kreuz_und_q...etzer-24964097

Can't find an English version yet. Abbreviated translation:

Racism investigation launched against PNOS (party of nationally oriented Swiss) ... a Web site of that party denounces the new Miss Switzerland Whitney Toyloy as "... an embodiement of the cancer that is already eating the free, independent Confederation ..."

Seems Switzerland, like Austria, needs to start "seeking the enemies within the country" as Austrian Reinhard Fendrich so eloquently put it.
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Old 15.10.2008, 15:43
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Re: Joerg Haider dies in car accident

excuse me, but what are you guys feeling sorry for? ever came across his political "visions"? i have been in vienna that day and its crazy as people in kärnten (his home kanton) declared him as a martyr or something like a hero.
i am glad the world is rid of another fascist!
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Old 15.10.2008, 15:53
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Seems Switzerland, like Austria, needs to start "seeking the enemies within the country" as Austrian Reinhard Fendrich so eloquently put it.
Excuse me?

FPÖ has 42.5% of the votes in its most important province. PNOS has 130 members.

Puts them on the same level like the Westboro Baptist Church if you want a comparision with irrelevant American nutters.
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Re: Joerg Haider dies in car accident

Feel sorry for his family apart from that....
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Old 15.10.2008, 16:13
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Feel sorry for his family apart from that....

I agree, someone has lost a father, someone lost a husband. Whatever his politics, there's a human side too.
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Old 16.10.2008, 10:08
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Re: Joerg Haider dies in car accident

The police has corrected their initial statement, it was calculated that he was driving 184 km/h.

In the mean time, many mourners have been at the site of the accident.

The austrian president and chancelor will attend the funeral service. NZZ assumes that a media concept to avoid photographs of them together with radicals is already on its way.
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Re: Joerg Haider dies in car accident

In the Swiss french news last night, they said he had been drunk a bit too much ... what a way to leave this world !!!
Be drunk and drive like wild fire straight to the end of this worldly existence !!!
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Old 23.10.2008, 14:55
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Re: Joerg Haider dies in car accident

The plot thickens!

Haider's deputy reveals gay affair
By Tony Paterson in Berlin
Wednesday, 22 October 2008




Conservative Austria was in a state of shock today after the male successor to Jörg Haider admitted to having a longstanding “special relationship” with the far right leader who died dramatically in a high speed car crash earlier this month.

Stefan Petzner – the 27-year-old who recently replaced Haider as leader of the right wing Alliance for the Future of Austria and has often appeared in tears on television since his death - effectively outed himself as the deceased’s gay lover while being interviewed on an Austrian radio breakfast show.

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The plot thickens!

Haider's deputy reveals gay affair
By Tony Paterson in Berlin
Wednesday, 22 October 2008




Conservative Austria was in a state of shock today after the male successor to Jörg Haider admitted to having a longstanding “special relationship” with the far right leader who died dramatically in a high speed car crash earlier this month.

Stefan Petzner – the 27-year-old who recently replaced Haider as leader of the right wing Alliance for the Future of Austria and has often appeared in tears on television since his death - effectively outed himself as the deceased’s gay lover while being interviewed on an Austrian radio breakfast show.

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Methinks it's their own bloody business (with due respect to the defunct politician).
However, if I were a party member I wouldn't accept the transfer of power without some kind of major consultation. The way things are now, it's just too awkward - and has nothing to do with the fact that they were gay lovers.

YMMV, obviously

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Old 23.10.2008, 23:13
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Methinks it's their own bloody business (with due respect to the defunct politician)
Its only a story because he allowed homophobia to flourish, unchallenged amongst his core support base. Hopefully those same supporters will now be questioning some of their other 'deeply held' beliefs
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Old 23.10.2008, 23:35
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Its only a story because he allowed homophobia to flourish
Actually homosexuality is the one thing he never polemicised.
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Old 24.10.2008, 07:43
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Actually homosexuality is the one thing he never polemicised.
I know that, what I am saying is that homophobia was tolerated within his party. He was no Pim Fortuyn
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Old 24.10.2008, 09:35
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= Austria's Haider dies in accident =

Haider died in a car crash, police said

Austrian far-right politician Joerg Haider has been killed in a road accident, police reports say.
Haider died near Klagenfurt in Carinthia, his political stronghold.
He was driving alone when his car came off the road and he suffered severe head and chest injuries, police told the Austrian APA news agency.
The 58-year-old was a former leader of the Austrian Freedom Party, and was known for his anti-immigration and anti-EU policies.

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Let him rest in peace. Otherwise, Is there any further need to expatiate on this topic since, it took place few weeks ago unless there ïs another conspiracy theory behind it (similar to "Princess Diana's"), which we should know of?
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