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No God Bail Out on Environment

Bad news just in from Dr Rowan Williams is that whereas the G20 will be trying to save us from Financial Doom on the economic front there will be no, repeat, no, God Bail out on the Environment:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7964880.stm

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Old 26.03.2009, 10:11
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EDIT: This post is meant in light humour and should not start another 9000 reply mammoth like the israel palestine one.
Despite being far more important than even the israeli/palestinian problem the environment continues to take back-seat in the publics eye. Just look at the country we live in, it's melting away! Glaciers are receding and boarders are being redrawn all because of global warming. Are the world's people ever going to stand up and try to reverse the damage that's already been done? Yes I think one day but unfortunately by then it might be too late..




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Old 26.03.2009, 10:21
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Bad news just in from Dr Rowan Williams is that whereas the G20 will be trying to save us from Financial Doom on the economic front there will be no, repeat, no, God Bail out on the Environment
I read this as a vote of no confidence in his management.
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Old 26.03.2009, 10:42
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The Archbishop hasn't thought this through as usual. If the boffins are right, the consequences of climate change will be violent natural destructive forces like hurricanes, floods and other extreme weather patterns. Since these are all Acts of God it would seem that He doesn't intend to sit on the sidelines and that His intervention is very much on the cards!
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Old 26.03.2009, 11:11
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Re: No God Bail Out on Environment

The Archbishop of Canterbury seems to have lost his faith in God and now worships at the alter of climate change...
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Old 26.03.2009, 11:30
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I don't know much about him. But this statement is close to consensus, no?


Without a change of heart, Dr Williams warned, the world faced a number of "doomsday scenarios" including the "ultimate tragedy" of humanity gradually "choked, drowned, or starved by its own stupidity."
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Old 26.03.2009, 11:40
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Re: No God Bail Out on Environment




End of argument.
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Old 26.03.2009, 11:43
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I don't know much about him. But this statement is close to consensus, no?


Without a change of heart, Dr Williams warned, the world faced a number of "doomsday scenarios" including the "ultimate tragedy" of humanity gradually "choked, drowned, or starved by its own stupidity."
Isn't he just talking his own "Book"
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Old 26.03.2009, 11:49
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...Glaciers are receding and boarders are being redrawn all because of global warming.
Italy, Switzerland to redraw boarder
from the news source you qouted: "The border change only affects uninhabited mountaintop terrain. The deputy excludes the possibility of any family having to change citizenship."

not much of a disaster, is it ?
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Isn't he just talking his own "Book"

He talks about a change of heart. The greens talk about a change of lifestyle. Aren't they both calls for repentance?
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He talks about a change of heart. The greens talk about a change of lifestyle. Aren't they both calls for repentance?
I knew those 4x4 drivers would have to answer for their crimes one day...

Thou shalt not drive a Chelsea tractor.
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Old 26.03.2009, 13:59
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He talks about a change of heart. The greens talk about a change of lifestyle. Aren't they both calls for repentance?
exactly - "Global warming" is a new religion - believing that human actions influence global processes when no direct impact can be proven.

We should all strive to pollute less & be nice to others. but scaring us with divine punishment is sooo 12th century.
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Old 26.03.2009, 14:09
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We should all strive to pollute less & be nice to others. but scaring us with divine punishment is sooo 12th century.
Works with some, though so if it ain't broke don't fix it. Much of the world isn't up to understanding the science so it's good to have a "Oooh the big beardy guy in the sky will burn, drown and blow you away if you don't recycle your plastic!" angle to appeal to them.
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Works with some, though so if it ain't broke don't fix it. Much of the world isn't up to understanding the science so it's good to have a "Oooh the big beardy guy in the sky will burn, drown and blow you away if you don't recycle your plastic!" angle to appeal to them.

Even more so when the scientists can't seem to explain their science.
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Old 26.03.2009, 14:20
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Works with some, though so if it ain't broke don't fix it. Much of the world isn't up to understanding the science so it's good to have a "Oooh the big beardy guy in the sky will burn, drown and blow you away if you don't recycle your plastic!" angle to appeal to them.
Though the new religious approach seems to be "It's the end of the world and there's nothing you can do about it!, Praise the lord! Don't you dare try to say otherwise or try to do something, we might get proved wrong.... again."
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Even more so when the scientists can't seem to explain their science.
Yes but most people agree (scientists and the religious set) that the environment is being damaged by human interference. You can't appeal to the WHOLE population with science in the same way you can't appeal to the WHOLE population with religion.

The developed world tends to respond most to all the damning reports published by science showing all the nitty gritty details while the less developed countries benefit more by weaving it into the religion (big beardy guy says NOO!).

OK, maybe that's a bit over simplifying but you have to adapt your methods to make the maximum people understand.
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It seems to me the new religious approach seems to be "It's the end of the world and there's nothing you can do about it!, Praise the lord! Don't you dare try to say otherwise or try to do something, we might get proved wrong.... again."

It's really more like:

"God is real. Stop worrying about dying. Enjoy your life!"

I recommend you get an update when you get a chance.
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Even more so when the scientists can't seem to explain their science.
To be honest, I don't think they need to "explain" it. Just present the evidence. Ice caps are melting since the world went all technical and industrial - whaddaya fink that means?

Call it a way-out hunchy thing but maybe the two are connected in some way.
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Yes but most people agree (scientists and the religious set) that the environment is being damaged by human interference. You can't appeal to the WHOLE population with science in the same way you can't appeal to the WHOLE population with religion.

The developed world tends to respond most to all the damning reports published by science showing all the nitty gritty details while the less developed countries benefit more by weaving it into the religion (big beardy guy says NOO!).

OK, maybe that's a bit over simplifying but you have to adapt your methods to make the maximum people understand.

I don't think religion is going to cut it in this case. Man is hopeless, short of divine intervention.
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"My God is real to me. Stop worrying about dying. Enjoy your life! Don't worry about anyone else either"
Fixed that for you
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