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Old 30.12.2017, 13:29
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Just like knitting.. fake, troll, fake, troll, spin one, fake, troll, fake, troll..

Or double up for a nice rib effect: fake 2, troll 2, until the end.. of the year and carry over to the next..

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........ For example, Germany in the 2000's invested a huge sum of public and private money to become the green energy industry leader of the world. ......
Did you know that since 2010 Germany has opened 9 new coal fired power stations?
You need a reserve supply for cloudy, windless days and since Germany prematurely closed many nuclear stations then there was no other alternative
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Old 18.01.2018, 09:29
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Did you know that since 2010 Germany has opened 9 new coal fired power stations?
You need a reserve supply for cloudy, windless days and since Germany prematurely closed many nuclear stations then there was no other alternative
That's so they can build more diesels!
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Old 18.01.2018, 09:55
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Did you know that since 2010 Germany has opened 9 new coal fired power stations?
You need a reserve supply for cloudy, windless days and since Germany prematurely closed many nuclear stations then there was no other alternative
Time for a little pro-nuclear giggle. It's tough for those Greens to choose between Chernobyl and climate change...

Despite that, the energy transition in Germany goes on ahead of schedule - nuclear and coal both decreasing steadily.

https://energytransition.org/2018/01...17/#more-16539
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Old 18.01.2018, 11:09
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

"The current trend is that by 2020 Germany will cut its emissions by only 30 per cent compared with 1990 levels, instead of 40 per cent as planned," says Dr Patrick Graichen, Director of Agora Energiewende.

The most harmful source of CO2, lignite, [from coal power stations] remains at a consistently high level.

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Of course none of this looks at the harmful atmospheric emissions for humans from coal versus the non - emissions from nuclear.
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Old 18.01.2018, 11:46
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Did you know that since 2010 Germany has opened 9 new coal fired power stations?
You need a reserve supply for cloudy, windless days and since Germany prematurely closed many nuclear stations then there was no other alternative
do you know the utilization rates of those power plants? they are barely running. it is for back up and operate in cyclic manner.
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Old 18.01.2018, 11:57
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

11% of the power consumed in Germany is from Hard Coal, that's down 1.4% from last year (2016).
11.2% is from Brown Coal, up 0.1% from last year.
Oil and gas 58.3% up 1.7%


Renewables 13.1% up 0.6%

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Old 18.01.2018, 12:04
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11% of the power consumed in Germany is from Hard Coal, that's down 1.4% from last year.
11.2% is from Brown Coal, up 0.1% from last year.
to add: this happened while the economy was growing by almost 2% (most recent estimate).
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Old 18.01.2018, 12:07
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11% of the power consumed in Germany is from Hard Coal, that's down 1.4% from last year.
11.2% is from Brown Coal, up 0.1% from last year.
Thanks for the info.

I am not sure how valid power consumed is as a measure of coal consumption? As was mentioned you have to keep burning coal even when not supplying power to the grid.

It would be nice to know how many actual tonnes of coal are burnt per year.
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do you know the utilization rates of those power plants? they are barely running. it is for back up and operate in cyclic manner.
Look in post 2206.
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Old 18.01.2018, 12:24
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Thanks for the info.

I am not sure how valid power consumed is as a measure of coal consumption? As was mentioned you have to keep burning coal even when not supplying power to the grid.

It would be nice to know how many actual tonnes of coal are burnt per year.
There are common conversion rates (obviously averaging out the quality and type of coal and the running of each specific plant).


My quick calculation would be around 102.4 million tons.
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Old 18.01.2018, 13:03
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Thanks for the info.

I am not sure how valid power consumed is as a measure of coal consumption? As was mentioned you have to keep burning coal even when not supplying power to the grid.

It would be nice to know how many actual tonnes of coal are burnt per year.
most German coal power plants are able to achieve 25% load as minimum stable operation. However, I can tell you most just shuts down as even that is expensive.
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Old 18.01.2018, 13:06
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There are common conversion rates (obviously averaging out the quality and type of coal and the running of each specific plant).


My quick calculation would be around 102.4 million tons.
Thanks but I assume they are also burning coal while not sending power to the grid; as was mentioned 25% load?
So I assume this coal for standby would be additional to the 102.4 million tons?
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

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CO2 = Global Warming is False

Any one can see that it is false, if it is clearly presented. There is a post there by Mark where he presents calculations the CO2: from breath/metabolism of animals CO2 amounts to some 150 gigatons, as compared with 24 from man made ones!


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I am a scientist in the 90% camp. The publication that pushed me over the edge into believing Global Warming is TRUE, was commissioned by USA commercial interests to prove it was false. It was written by scientists and used real data. To me, this data supported the key elements of the Global Warming is True camp. If your "facts" were true, why were they not used in this study? Keep in mind fossil fuels release CO2 that was stored away a long time ago, whereas breath/metabolism only cycle CO2 recently captured by plants.
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all the private jets parked t Dubendorf airport because there were big climate change talks at WEF Davos 2018 )

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10 degrees and sun by the lake and record snow and cold in the mountains
but isn't that how its supposed to be?

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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Please do not let one day of weather fool you.
Global Warming science predicts some areas will get colder, or get more rain, or more snow, or stronger winds on average. It also predicts that most days will seem similar to what you experienced in the past.
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Old 31.01.2018, 10:25
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most German coal power plants are able to achieve 25% load as minimum stable operation. However, I can tell you most just shuts down as even that is expensive.
It is actually more expensive to shut down and re-start a plant that to keep it running at low load for several days.

The design specs of a coal plant actually contain as a figure the number of cold starts you can do. The stress on the machinery is huge at startup. Every start is a chip off the residual lifetime of the plant.

Same with nuclear power by the way. That's why off-peak power is so cheap. They almost pay you to take it off them, and that's still cheaper than not actually producing it.
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