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Ah, my money would be on it being written by their reporter who launches into science and any religion other than Christianity at every opportunity.
Actually, he writes about biblical foundations for the age of reason. For example:

"The Bible provides a picture of a rational Creator and an orderly universe - which, accordingly, provided the template for the exercise of reason and the development of science."

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Are we creeping back to religion again?
You're right. I'll post this on the other thread.
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Old 30.03.2009, 22:09
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Actually, he writes about biblical foundations for the age of reason. For example:

"The Bible provides a picture of a rational Creator and an orderly universe - which, accordingly, provided the template for the exercise of reason and the development of science."
Mmmyes, but he does attack of lot legitimate science in his articles.

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You're right. I'll post this on the other thread.
Fair enough.
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

the new world order is behind it to bring in a one world government.

Global Warming Scam is used for One World Tyrannical Government

also, go to google video and watch the alex jones films!
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Sea level rise: It's worse than we thought

You see, the sceptics are right. The scientists keep getting it wrong. Look what they were saying in 2007, and what they are saying now.
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Sea level rise: It's worse than we thought

You see, the sceptics are right. The scientists keep getting it wrong. Look what they were saying in 2007, and what they are saying now.
It's the PENGUINS guys, I keep telling you! They're the ones behind global warming!
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There is a post there by Mark where he presents calculations the CO2: from breath/metabolism of animals CO2 amounts to some 150 gigatons, as compared with 24 from man made ones!
Well, animals are breathing and farting because we breed them to feed us with cheap meat. If we'd eat more vegetables and less meat we'd spare lots of CO2 in the air and live healthier lives.
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Old 11.10.2009, 13:42
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BBC: What happened to global warming?


"But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.

And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise. "



I'm not surprised. Are you?
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I'm not surprised. Are you?
No. Not at all.
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Well, animals are breathing and farting because we breed them to feed us with cheap meat. If we'd eat more vegetables and less meat we'd spare lots of CO2 in the air and live healthier lives.
Don't forget the methane and other noxious gasses. CO2 is the nice one!
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Old 11.10.2009, 15:07
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Well, animals are breathing and farting because we breed them to feed us with cheap meat.
I don't see how the price of the meat plays into this. Or are you implying that a Swiss cow produces less CO2 or methane than a let's say Canadian cow?
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Old 11.10.2009, 15:40
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I don't see how the price of the meat plays into this. Or are you implying that a Swiss cow produces less CO2 or methane than a let's say Canadian cow?

The effort for cheap meat means the beasts are kept in places using methods which specifically allow for mass production of meat. Thousands of cattle being kept in a barn, fed corn (or whatever) rather thank relying upon the land (free range) sustaining the lives of said cattle.

IF we were limited by what can truly be sustained by free range produce, the meat we have would be more expensive... like buying local Swiss beef.

Meanwhile, IF there were such constraints, there would be fewer animals bred as the land would be unable to sustain them and hence, there would be less methane expulsion.
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Old 11.10.2009, 15:47
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

People who don't know crap about science should really stick to talking about Marmite, beer, curry, whinging about what they can't get here and what private schools to send their little Bratleigh's and Snotleigh's to.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...warming-pause/
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Old 12.10.2009, 21:29
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

The BBC's amazing U-turn on climate change

'Nature' attacks the BBC for its U-turn over climate change
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I don't see how the price of the meat plays into this. Or are you implying that a Swiss cow produces less CO2 or methane than a let's say Canadian cow?
It plays a role: the meat in our society is too cheap, considering the effects that its production has on the environment. Making the meat more expensive, and taking the enviromental costs into account would reduce its consumption and therefore pollution linked to its production. Same thing we could say about flight tickets. Unsustainable activities should not be incentivated and reduced as much as possible. Eating meat often is definitely not sustainable, as there would simply be not enough land to grow food to feed animals to produce meat for everybody. Moreover, land is being over-exploited by growing the same stuff (soya,corn, weat) every year.
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Or are you implying that a Swiss cow produces less CO2 or methane than a let's say Canadian cow?
No, I don't know about this. And I don't know how Canadian cows ar treated. For what I have seen, cows have a much better life here than for example in Italy. Here you can see the cows eating grass on the mountains, in Italy they are kept in huge buildings, in hundreds, fed on cereals instead of their natural food, which makes them produce more milk and die a lot younger.
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Old 13.10.2009, 00:28
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Well, thank God true scientists - the ones who remembered to be skeptical. Otherwise, we would be doing the whole "cap and trade" bullcrap for nothing. It probably would have been the biggest financial scam ever perpetrated.
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Old 13.10.2009, 07:20
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Hmm. Two references to Daily Telegraph articles by the same author. You didn't even bother to refer to the original Nature or BBC posts. Are you a journalist too? You appear to have the same lack of research skills as a journalist. Are you trolling, or do you actually think you have come across a significant discovery?

Nature blog post: Climate sceptics celebrate BBC story

The article which apparently demonstrates the BBC's U-turn: What happened to global warming?

In the interests of balance (can I now be a journalist too? ) here is something from the Real Climate blog: A warming pause?

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Well, thank God true scientists - the ones who remembered to be skeptical.
Phos, the same goes for you. Your - literally - religious approach to truth doesn't impress either. You can't define a true scientist based on whether or not you agree with said scientist. You obviously haven't even read the Torygraph articles.
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Phos, the same goes for you. Your - literally - religious approach to truth doesn't impress either. You can't define a true scientist based on whether or not you agree with said scientist. You obviously haven't even read the Torygraph articles.

Religious approach? I think the religious buy into the Global Warming meme. Beast, the evidence doesn't even added up to form a scientific finding. It was ALL circumstantial combined with hysteria and extreme left-wing propaganda. You're telling me that THIS is science, and I am too stupid to understand it, then I will tell you it looks more like religion than science.
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Religious approach? I think the religious buy into the Global Warming meme. Beast, the evidence doesn't even added up to form a scientific finding. It was ALL circumstantial combined with hysteria and extreme left-wing propaganda. You're telling me that THIS is science, and I am too stupid to understand it, then I will tell you it looks more like religion than science.
How does the left wing fit in with global warming?

The research is far from over, but for you, a bit of an argument and suddenly it's ALL rubbish.
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You're telling me that THIS is science, and I am too stupid to understand it
Am I telling you both those things? Thanks for revealing the "hidden meaning" of my post. I am not aware of ever having criticised your level of intelligence. But I may have commented on your faculties as regard critical thought.

Are you telling me that the two Torygraph articles, which you hadn't, and probably still haven't, read constitute good journalism?

You exhibit strong selection bias and weak scepticism when it comes to interpreting "facts". Hence my "religious" quip.
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