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Old 16.04.2010, 12:30
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

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And check out Al Gore running away like a coward, refusing to answer questions :

And WTF do you think a clip of some Fox news guys harassing people proves? The same sh!t has been pulled by Creationists who seem to think that pissing off Richard Dawkins validates their "theories".

Tell me, are scientists also poisoning your sprinkler?


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Old 16.04.2010, 12:38
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And WTF do you think a clip of some Fox news guys harassing people proves?
Because for some people getting angry about Al Gore is a lot easier than cracking a science book.
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Old 16.04.2010, 14:16
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Too bad the graphs from algore weren't overlapped where you could clearly see it's the Earth that warms first and then CO2 rises afterward. About 700 years later.

The government always wants a "boogie man" to control people and they buy it hook line and sinker every time.











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Too bad the graphs from algore weren't overlapped where you could clearly see it's the Earth that warms first and then CO2 rises afterward. About 700 years later.







Yawn, it gets too easy.

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Old 16.04.2010, 16:04
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Old 16.04.2010, 16:06
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

I think its from this....

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Old 16.04.2010, 16:09
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Lol, Skeptical science.
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Old 16.04.2010, 18:50
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

From USA Today http://content.usatoday.com/communit...st-on-record/1

"Although a large chunk of the USA didn't get in on the warmth in March, the rest of the world sure did.

March was the warmest March ever recorded worldwide, the National Climate Data Center (NCDC) reported Thursday. NCDC records go back to 1880.

Another source, the University of Alabama-Huntsville, also reported that March 2010 was the warmest March since their climate records began in 1979."

I always find it very interesting that the scientists can make statements list the above... "warmest on record...ever...worldwide..." ... since they`ve only been keeing records for about 230 years...
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From USA Today http://content.usatoday.com/communit...st-on-record/1

"Although a large chunk of the USA didn't get in on the warmth in March, the rest of the world sure did.

March was the warmest March ever recorded worldwide, the National Climate Data Center (NCDC) reported Thursday. NCDC records go back to 1880.

Another source, the University of Alabama-Huntsville, also reported that March 2010 was the warmest March since their climate records began in 1979."

I always find it very interesting that the scientists can make statements list the above... "warmest on record...ever...worldwide..." ... since they`ve only been keeing records for about 230 years...
Hmm, here in czech republic this march was the coldest march in ~30 years, with snow staying in Prague for months (usually it is like 5 days per whole winter). What is i think clear that climate is changing. Some places get hotter, some colder, some wetter etc. because of other factors like air currents, Gulf current. But who says climate was always stable? We had very, i mean VERY strong ice age just 10 000 years ago, and i remember correctly it lasted for very long time(few thousand years? I think britain was frozen to europe back then). I guess caveman had huuuge fire-party that time
Seriously though - i hope... no, i PRAY (and i am atheist by belief) that Swiss will never join EU - because global warming is just another boogie man that can give huge (bilions) profit to individuals and groups that realised how easy is to earn on it. And to see all sort of EU dotations to have biogas, solar plants etc...
Every, i mean EVERY single of these activities turns out to cause much more harm than good (ie biogas causes huge areas of rain forests to be cut just to make plantations) that i literally hate any eco-activities.
I love nature, and i think that we as a mankind behave terribly to it, maybe in 200 year it will go FUBAR. But real change will never be effective in form of some tax or other crap, we need to change our (and i mean every single soul out there) thinking, and that is practically impossible. So i try to enjoy nature worldwide while it still exists...
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Old 26.04.2010, 03:51
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

I am not sure if this is the right thread, but here is one of the most remarkable documentaries that I have seen about urbanization and rescourcefulness of people to adapt. I also love the way that the Lagos people use language- melodic and highly inventive.

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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Another nail in the coffin.

A study: The temperature rise has caused the CO2 Increase, not the other way around

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Using two well accepted data sets, a simple model can be used to show that the rise in CO2 is a result of the temperature anomaly, not the other way around. This is the exact opposite of the IPCC model that claims that rising CO2 causes the temperature anomaly.

We offer no explanation for why global temperatures are changing now or have changed in the past, but it seems abundantly clear that the recent temperature rise is not caused by the rise in CO2 levels.
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Old 03.08.2010, 10:40
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

- CO2 trading will be a huge boon to banks, possibly a multi-trillion dollar market.

- CO2 taxes will be a godsend for governments always in need of more revenue.

- "Green Tech" offers opportunities for government contracts and grants, much like military spending.

- Global warming is can be presented as a common enemy or cause, always desired to justify greater government control.

- Politicians and journalists like to think of themselves as altruists and use the concepts of altruism and shaming to shape citizens' behavior, much as they do with welfare.

I have a dusty masters degree in evironmental science. In my opinion most of the people in that field have good intentions, but they tend to be those who need the social crutch of a subculture, and they have formed a kind of religion.
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Old 03.08.2010, 14:36
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

I agree, hugely complicated hoaxes are obviously the best way to get tax money. Organising an army of scientists to fake this conspiracy is probably a lot easier than just raising an army and putting the population under the boot.
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Hotter-burning sun warming the planet

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The sun is burning hotter than usual, offering a possible explanation for global warming that needs to be weighed when proceeding with expensive efforts to cut emissions of greenhouse gases, Swiss and German scientists say.

"The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures," said Sami Solanki, the director of the renowned Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Gottingen, Germany, who led the research.

"The sun is in a changed state. It is brighter than it was a few hundred years ago and this brightening started relatively recently -- in the last 100 to 150 years," Mr. Solanski said.

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"It shows that there is enough happening on the solar front to merit further research. Perhaps we are devoting too many resources to correcting human effects on the climate without being sure that we are the major contributor," he said.
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Some of the sceptics (yes, Americans, it doesn't have a 'k' in it ) think that the planet's not getting hotter and some think it is getting hotter but that's not caused by humans. Some on this thread are posting stuff supporting one conjectures and then posting again supporting the other. Stop flip-flopping and make your minds up!
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Some of the sceptics (yes, Americans, it doesn't have a 'k' in it ) think that the planet's not getting hotter and some think it is getting hotter but that's not caused by humans. Some on this thread are posting stuff supporting one conjectures and then posting again supporting the other. Stop flip-flopping and make your minds up!
Deffo created by Al Gore. Stop that guy talking and the planet will cool
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Old 10.08.2010, 11:58
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Deffo created by Al Gore. Stop that guy talking and the planet will cool
What's it like in those re-education camps? Do they have pool?

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Some of the sceptics (yes, Americans, it doesn't have a 'k' in it ) think that the planet's not getting hotter and some think it is getting hotter but that's not caused by humans. Some on this thread are posting stuff supporting one conjectures and then posting again supporting the other. Stop flip-flopping and make your minds up!
It doesn't seem to me that your gripe is accurately directed. The contradictory positions posted by those EFers didn't originate with them, but with scientists, which only suggests that the matter isn't as scientifically "settled" as some would like it to be (however politically "settled" it might be). In any case, "Stop it!" doesn't exactly sound like a scientific response to the on-going rigorous critical analysis and debate that often accompany a matter under scientific consideration.
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