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Another completely unbiased source I see
Is there a source not unbiased, and couldn't one discern the fact from spin in it, with some critical thinking?
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Is there a source not unbiased, and couldn't one discern the fact from spin in it, with some critical thinking?
maybe, maybe not. But there are certainly levels.
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Follow the money (not all that much has changed in 5 years)...

Top scientist resigns from post - admits Global Warming is a scam
Slightly offputting - I was looking for fresh news, whereas the man who resigned has been dead for some years...
Clearly you had to look through the dusty archives to find some good ammo.
Predictably, the American Physical Society, whom Lewis accused, posted a robust reply to his incorrect accusations.

http://www.aps.org/about/pressreleases/haroldlewis.cfm
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Forget AGW pseudo science.

It's all about the money.

Goldman Strikes Again: Did A Probe Into "Global Warming" Fraud Cost A Prime Minister's Job
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

No, "Abbott was a divisive prime minister, whose political values owed more to a hard-line and brutish Catholic conservatism than any sophisticated understanding of social and political reality either in the world or his own country. Under Abbott, the country had lost its moral compass. This was made all the more visible by the emergence of a more liberal-minded Pope Francis in the Vatican. He and Abbott parted company on key issues including the moral responsibility to recognize climate change and respond appropriately."

So, no need for a Goldman Sachs conspiracy theory this time - a shame as they have a lot to answer for.
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

«The climate models used by alarmist scientists to predict global warming are getting worse, not better; carbon dioxide does far more good than harm; and President Obama has backed the “wrong side” in the war on “climate change.”» — physicist Freeman Dyson
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

«Following his interview with Breitbart London, Greenpeace founder Dr. Patrick Moore addressed the Global Warming Policy Foundation in London last night, telling them why he left the environmentalist group and became sceptical of man-made global warming.» — Breitbart Article
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Re: Global Warming - what's behind it?

Interesting article
Dr. Patrick Moore's claim of being one of the co-founders of Greenpeace is currently disputed but he was listed by Greenpeace International as one of five founders as recently as 2005
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Following his interview with Breitbart London, Greenpeace founder Dr. Patrick Moore addressed the Global Warming Policy Foundation in London last night, telling them why he left the environmentalist group and became sceptical of man-made global warming.» — Breitbart Article
Patrick Moore died in 2012 - that's the second dead climate skepticTexaner has felt the need to dig up recently. And Freeman Dyson is 91. Looks like they are a dying breed....
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Patrick Moore died in 2012
Maybe he's gone on up to the Spirit in the Sky, giving him a unique perspective on the atmosphere.
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Patrick Moore died in 2012 - that's the second dead climate skepticTexaner has felt the need to dig up recently. And Freeman Dyson is 91. Looks like they are a dying breed....

What is the expression? "The devil is in the detail"


Sir Patrick Moore died in 2012


Dr Patrick Moore (the guy written about) is still going strong.


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Patrick Moore died in 2012 - that's the second dead climate skeptic Texaner has felt the need to dig up recently. And Freeman Dyson is 91. Looks like they are a dying breed....
Oops that was another Patrick Moore.
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Insight into what is behind Global Warming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpuSt_ST4_U

In the last minute, narrator states, "Here's the big question - What if global warming isn't only a crisis? What if its the best chance we are ever going to get to build a better world? Change or be changed!". See here that its not even about the science, its the agenda.

Now, I don't mind a call for change. I don't even mind a call for revolution. But this is deception of the largest scale ever. If and when such large masses of people are ever unleashed as this suggests, nobody has any idea what it will lead to. Revolutions are rarely ever bloodless. Just know that.
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Insight into what is behind Global Warming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpuSt_ST4_U

In the last minute, narrator states, "Here's the big question - What if global warming isn't only a crisis? What if its the best chance we are ever going to get to build a better world? Change or be changed!". See here that its not even about the science, its the agenda.

Now, I don't mind a call for change. I don't even mind a call for revolution. But this is deception of the largest scale ever. If and when such large masses of people are ever unleashed as this suggests, nobody has any idea what it will lead to. Revolutions are rarely ever bloodless. Just know that.
So - one man with an extremist agenda mouths off and you tar the whole thing with the same brush. Do you honestly believe that everyone who says something should be done about climate change is a covert revolutionary. Many are just worried that their house, or country, is going to be washed away, or fried.
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So - one man with an extremist agenda mouths off and you tar the whole thing with the same brush. Do you honestly believe that everyone who says something should be done about climate change is a covert revolutionary. Many are just worried that their house, or country, is going to be washed away, or fried.
Well, its not one man, its a whole political faction. That film is from Naomi Klein, and that movement is real. The scientific argument is no longer even necessary. They are now trying to build up a juggernaut. The "scientific" argument I have been hearing is there is a "consensus" amongst "scientists". Was there any other? That's not science, that is politics, isn't it?
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Well the first links posted are so laughable it really wasn't worth even thinking about reading them.
Well there goes any claim you might have had to being interested in rational debate - rubbishing someone's supporting argument without actually reading it.

Way to go! I'm sure your assertions will carry much more weight now.
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Well there goes any claim you might have had to being interested in rational debate - rubbishing someone's supporting argument without actually reading it.

Way to go! I'm sure your assertions will carry much more weight now.
Not when the link is from a nutjob website. SOTT is run by something called "The Quantum Future Group", a "religous" group that combine elements of quantum theory, aliens and star wars.


Sorry but no. That site is absolutely not credible and not remotely worth the attention of anyone with more than 2 braincells.
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But if it is from a whiny socialist-leftist group, it must be science.

Here you go:
http://thischangeseverything.org

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But if it is from a whiny socialist-leftist group, it must be science.

Here you go:
http://thischangeseverything.org

Phos: I can never decide whether you are naive or just someone who likes to create waves... Pray tell.

Climate change is going to redistribute a lot of money and power. The question is who will get it? So there is a lot of politics involved. That Naomi Klein is trying to stop big capital grabbing all the cake is an explicit political act, but it has nothing to do with the science.
In a similar way, many of the climate deniers are purely in it for the money, to preserve their nice income for as long as possible. The difference is that they pretend to be having a scientific debate, whereas what they are doing is purely political (see "Merchants of Doubt" for the well-trodden path that they are taking).
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