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Old 02.06.2009, 15:42
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

Just heard on CNN that they have found some debris in the Atlantic near where the plane is thought to have gone down, but it is not yet confirmed to be from Flight AF 447.

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Old 02.06.2009, 16:06
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Gang keep it sensible! when You fly a lot like I do these things worry you and i have flown AF and found it to be an excellent carrier
I have flown by AF for past 5 years and over 10 times long distance journeys 12hours long from SA to EU and back. I never had any bad experience with the carrier. Something must have really gone wrong this time. My deep condolences to families of the lost ones.
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Old 02.06.2009, 16:26
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I'm actually suprised you have family.
Now thats mean.. We should sympathize with the mentally challenged
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Old 02.06.2009, 16:43
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

They have found some parts of a wreckage in sea.

More will follow soon I guess... I feel sorry for everyone on that plane

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090602...h-6323e80.html
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Old 02.06.2009, 16:44
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Just heard on CNN that they have found some debris in the Atlantic near where the plane is thought to have gone down, but it is not yet confirmed to be from Flight AF 447.

BBC are reporting that plane seats have been spotted as part of the debris, but the search is continuing because the amount of debris spotted is too small compared to the size of the aircraft.
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Old 02.06.2009, 16:45
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

I think that they are wanting to confirm with a serial number....
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Old 02.06.2009, 16:46
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I think that they are wanting to confirm with a serial number....

Thats what they have said on yahoo news too
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Old 02.06.2009, 16:47
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

I think confirming with a serial number is now nothing more than a formality - unfortunately.
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Old 02.06.2009, 17:51
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

OK, call me a dreamer or crazy or whatever (definitely a Lost fan) but...the odds of this incident happening, by all accounts, were small, so who's to say there won't be any survivors? As far as I understand, no one knows what happened, so perhaps we can keep the faith til we're absolutely sure...Stranger things have happened.
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Old 02.06.2009, 17:59
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OK, call me a dreamer or crazy or whatever (definitely a Lost fan) but...the odds of this incident happening, by all accounts, were small, so who's to say there won't be any survivors? As far as I understand, no one knows what happened, so perhaps we can keep the faith til we're absolutely sure...Stranger things have happened.
If there were any survivors they would be in emergency liferafts, and since these are equipped with locator beacons the Brazillian airforce would have picked up some sort of a signal by now.
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Old 02.06.2009, 18:58
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OK, call me a dreamer or crazy or whatever (definitely a Lost fan) but...the odds of this incident happening, by all accounts, were small, so who's to say there won't be any survivors? As far as I understand, no one knows what happened, so perhaps we can keep the faith til we're absolutely sure...Stranger things have happened.
Sure, and I would wish for nothing more right now than to see at survivors.

But the reality is: airliners that far over the ocean are normally at cruising altitude, or around 35'000ft above sea level (So 10-11km straight up) at cruisng speed (900km/h). So if things go terribly wrong, the descending plane will have most likely reached such a speed it will have disintegrated either before or upon reaching the water. SR111 is just one such example.

My heart goes out to those losing their family and loved ones, it must be an agonising nightmare.

I also feel for the recovery team. It is a tedious, grissly, and gruesome task.
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Old 02.06.2009, 21:45
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I think that they are wanting to confirm with a serial number....
Do US spying sattelites scan bar codes
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Old 02.06.2009, 21:53
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

^^ No, what it means is that they need to physically recover some debris that has a S/N and then match it to the aircraft.
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

Its been confirmed:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8080290.stm

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Old 03.06.2009, 06:39
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https://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene...swers%20BeginsOn Aug. 24, 2001, an Air Transat A330-200, the same aircraft type as involved in Flight 447, experienced a dual-engine flameout of its two Rolls-Royce Trent 700B engines. Air Transat Flight 236 had departed Toronto Pearson International Airport with 306 people on board, bound for Lisbon, Portugal. A fuel leak caused the right engine to lose power when the aircraft was about 185 nautical miles from the nearest airport at Lajes AB, Terceira Island, Azores, Then, at 70 nm from the airfield, at 34,500 ft. altitude, Flight 236's left engine lost power. Although bursting eight of 10 tires on touchdown, the aircraft landed safely and all on board survived.

I have a thing about Trent engines, this says it's a Trent engine but it's unofficial.

I used to think that turbulence was fun,but not anymore

=Air France Flight 447:===A detailed meteorological analysis==
by Tim Vasquez

http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/af447/

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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

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I find your post about Trents (another cut and paste job) without knowing what has happened to be offensive and pure conjecture.

Please have the decency to wait until there is more information and then try to contribute to a discussion on what is a terrible tragedy.
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I find your post about Trents (another cut and paste job) without knowing what has happened to be offensive and pure conjecture.
Don't take any notice of hoppy. Posts like that are hoppy's trademark. It's amazing what theories one (particularly hoppy) can come up with playing MSFS....

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I have a thing about Trent engines, this says it's a Trent engine but it's unofficial.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20090601-0

The engines on the AF plane were GE engines.
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I find your post about Trents (another cut and paste job) without knowing what has happened to be offensive and pure conjecture.

Please have the decency to wait until there is more information and then try to contribute to a discussion on what is a terrible tragedy.
Hoppy is probably the first aviation expert in the world to ascertain that RR engines will not run without fuel, whereas others will. Give the woman some credit - that's very cutting edge...

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You do indeed. It's called "blatant lack of knowledge".
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Re: Air France Plane Off Radar - flight AF 447

It's looking like we'll never know exactly what happened.

BBC report here
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