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30.06.2009 10:02

Another Airbus plane crash A310-300
 
Heres the story

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090630/...s-41f21e0.html

I am wondering if flying is at all safe now.. :rolleyes:

My heart goes out to all the people and their relatives on board... :(

Mikers 30.06.2009 10:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Malinda (Post 484730)
Heres the story

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090630/...s-41f21e0.html

I am wondering if flying is at all safe now.. :rolleyes:

My heart goes out to all the people and their relatives on board... :(

Yes with two going down in succession there is a lot of "are planes even going to get off the ground ?" type worries but statistically as was just mentioned in another post its still by far the safest method of transport.

However, I wouldn't like to be running the Air France Engineering Division right now. I would imagine extra toilet roll has been ordered for the whole building where the planes are designed.

30.06.2009 11:20

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Originally Posted by MikeB (Post 484732)
Yes with two going down in succession there is a lot of "are planes even going to get off the ground ?" type worries but statistically as was just mentioned in another post its still by far the safest method of transport.

Mmm.. Statistics... maybe they are all wrong now.. :p

I too think (more likely pray) the statistics are true because I am flying to UK today :D

Lets hope all airliners do their maintenance properly and keeps all planes fully servicable. I know some do very cheap maintenance (Jet airlines : The Aussie one (Part of Quantas) which caught fire recently and involved in an emergency landing, also an airbus A330). At the end we as passengers pay for all their costs of running aircrafts and its time for them to ensure that aircrafts they provide are safe :msngrin:

But then again weather can play a part too:rolleyes:

tomcat 30.06.2009 11:41

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Ah, I just love fearmongering by amateurs and media alike. It's a wonderful thing. :p

The sky is falling, or at least the planes are falling out of it. :(

Our resident aviation expert hoppy will be right along to edumucate us. :D

Slaphead 30.06.2009 14:09

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The plane in question is just over 19 years old, entered service in May 1990 and was leased and subleased to a number of airlines until Yemenia acquired it in Sep 1999. Source http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20090630-0

According to the BBC the french authorities inspected the plane in 2007 and noticed a number of faults. Since then the plane had not returned to france. Although airline itself was not on the blacklist, it was subject to stricter checks, and was also about to be interviewed by the EU safety commitee. Source http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8125664.stm

Hmmm, not wanting to jump the gun here, but it seems there are questions over Yemenia's mantenance record.

30.06.2009 14:22

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Rescue workers have reportedly pulled a toddler alive from the sea where a Yemenia airlines plane crashed with 153 people on board.

Lets hope they find more survivors :(

ze devil's advocate 30.06.2009 14:24

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Human mortality....sad! Feel sorry for the families.

Snoopy 30.06.2009 16:38

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The approach in question appears to be particularly difficult, particularly at night. I should think that given the proximity to land the black boxes will be located quite quickly and we will have a good chance of knowing exactly what happened.

Whatever the outcome though, a definite tragedy coming so close on the heels of the Air France crash.

Slaphead 30.06.2009 17:27

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Breaking news from the BBC website says that the aircraft that crashed had already been banned from entering France due to "irregularities".

Rabina 30.06.2009 17:50

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There's a so-called black list of airlines not meeting basic airworthiness requirements which are banned from flying into Europe and North America. Unsurprisingly, the airlines tend to come from third world countries and includes freight haulers flying Russian Ilyushins and Antonovs for example. A couple of years ago PIA (Pakistan) had a European ban for their entire (essentially Airbus & Boeing) fleet, with the exception of their newly delivered B.777s as their maintenance procedures did not meet the require standards.

Airworthiness can be rather subjective, especially when you consider that it can affect any airline (Qantas, Southwest come to mind). One quality inspector's interpretation versus the National Air Authority inspector's can be classed as a finding, however trivial it may be.

Blonaybear 30.06.2009 19:35

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EU halted Yemenia maintenance of European jets in Feb.

Story here.

02.07.2009 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat (Post 484830)
Ah, I just love fearmongering by amateurs and media alike. It's a wonderful thing. :p

The sky is falling, or at least the planes are falling out of it. :(

Our resident aviation expert hoppy will be right along to edumucate us. :D

I ain't sayin nuffin! I don't need to- Actions speak louder than words.
But just a little reminder! Oh yes it's Boeing

02.07.2009 20:47

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Guess I'll get no thanks for this but maybe they should give us some extra in-flight coaching- just in case:

Dare I say- anyone looking for the vertical stabilizer-or vertical role-just to rule it out? Now they are saying that the Air France hit the water intact.


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