Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30.06.2009, 09:02
Malinda
 
Posts: n/a
Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Heres the story

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090630/...s-41f21e0.html

I am wondering if flying is at all safe now..

My heart goes out to all the people and their relatives on board...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 30.06.2009, 09:05
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Vaud
Posts: 2,459
Groaned at 175 Times in 122 Posts
Thanked 4,947 Times in 1,902 Posts
Mikers has a reputation beyond reputeMikers has a reputation beyond reputeMikers has a reputation beyond reputeMikers has a reputation beyond reputeMikers has a reputation beyond reputeMikers has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Quote:
View Post
Heres the story

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090630/...s-41f21e0.html

I am wondering if flying is at all safe now..

My heart goes out to all the people and their relatives on board...
Yes with two going down in succession there is a lot of "are planes even going to get off the ground ?" type worries but statistically as was just mentioned in another post its still by far the safest method of transport.

However, I wouldn't like to be running the Air France Engineering Division right now. I would imagine extra toilet roll has been ordered for the whole building where the planes are designed.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Mikers for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 30.06.2009, 10:20
Malinda
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Quote:
View Post
Yes with two going down in succession there is a lot of "are planes even going to get off the ground ?" type worries but statistically as was just mentioned in another post its still by far the safest method of transport.
Mmm.. Statistics... maybe they are all wrong now..

I too think (more likely pray) the statistics are true because I am flying to UK today

Lets hope all airliners do their maintenance properly and keeps all planes fully servicable. I know some do very cheap maintenance (Jet airlines : The Aussie one (Part of Quantas) which caught fire recently and involved in an emergency landing, also an airbus A330). At the end we as passengers pay for all their costs of running aircrafts and its time for them to ensure that aircrafts they provide are safe

But then again weather can play a part too
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 30.06.2009, 10:41
tomcat's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Stewdguard, Germany
Posts: 2,051
Groaned at 45 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 929 Times in 609 Posts
tomcat has a reputation beyond reputetomcat has a reputation beyond reputetomcat has a reputation beyond reputetomcat has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Ah, I just love fearmongering by amateurs and media alike. It's a wonderful thing.

The sky is falling, or at least the planes are falling out of it.

Our resident aviation expert hoppy will be right along to edumucate us.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank tomcat for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 30.06.2009, 13:09
Slaphead's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Zürich
Posts: 3,223
Groaned at 34 Times in 30 Posts
Thanked 9,408 Times in 2,870 Posts
Slaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

The plane in question is just over 19 years old, entered service in May 1990 and was leased and subleased to a number of airlines until Yemenia acquired it in Sep 1999. Source http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20090630-0

According to the BBC the french authorities inspected the plane in 2007 and noticed a number of faults. Since then the plane had not returned to france. Although airline itself was not on the blacklist, it was subject to stricter checks, and was also about to be interviewed by the EU safety commitee. Source http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8125664.stm

Hmmm, not wanting to jump the gun here, but it seems there are questions over Yemenia's mantenance record.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Slaphead for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 30.06.2009, 13:22
Malinda
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Rescue workers have reportedly pulled a toddler alive from the sea where a Yemenia airlines plane crashed with 153 people on board.

Lets hope they find more survivors
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 30.06.2009, 13:24
ze devil's advocate's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 821
Groaned at 16 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 653 Times in 349 Posts
ze devil's advocate has a reputation beyond reputeze devil's advocate has a reputation beyond reputeze devil's advocate has a reputation beyond reputeze devil's advocate has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Human mortality....sad! Feel sorry for the families.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30.06.2009, 15:38
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ticino
Posts: 3,006
Groaned at 93 Times in 65 Posts
Thanked 3,908 Times in 1,561 Posts
Snoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

The approach in question appears to be particularly difficult, particularly at night. I should think that given the proximity to land the black boxes will be located quite quickly and we will have a good chance of knowing exactly what happened.

Whatever the outcome though, a definite tragedy coming so close on the heels of the Air France crash.

Last edited by Snoopy; 30.06.2009 at 15:39. Reason: second thoughts....
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 30.06.2009, 16:27
Slaphead's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Zürich
Posts: 3,223
Groaned at 34 Times in 30 Posts
Thanked 9,408 Times in 2,870 Posts
Slaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Breaking news from the BBC website says that the aircraft that crashed had already been banned from entering France due to "irregularities".
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 30.06.2009, 16:50
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Mostly airborne
Posts: 493
Groaned at 12 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 337 Times in 169 Posts
Rabina has a reputation beyond reputeRabina has a reputation beyond reputeRabina has a reputation beyond reputeRabina has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

There's a so-called black list of airlines not meeting basic airworthiness requirements which are banned from flying into Europe and North America. Unsurprisingly, the airlines tend to come from third world countries and includes freight haulers flying Russian Ilyushins and Antonovs for example. A couple of years ago PIA (Pakistan) had a European ban for their entire (essentially Airbus & Boeing) fleet, with the exception of their newly delivered B.777s as their maintenance procedures did not meet the require standards.

Airworthiness can be rather subjective, especially when you consider that it can affect any airline (Qantas, Southwest come to mind). One quality inspector's interpretation versus the National Air Authority inspector's can be classed as a finding, however trivial it may be.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 30.06.2009, 18:35
Blonaybear's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Blonay
Posts: 1,593
Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 836 Times in 432 Posts
Blonaybear has a reputation beyond reputeBlonaybear has a reputation beyond reputeBlonaybear has a reputation beyond reputeBlonaybear has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

EU halted Yemenia maintenance of European jets in Feb.

Story here.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02.07.2009, 19:16
hoppy
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Quote:
View Post
Ah, I just love fearmongering by amateurs and media alike. It's a wonderful thing.

The sky is falling, or at least the planes are falling out of it.

Our resident aviation expert hoppy will be right along to edumucate us.
I ain't sayin nuffin! I don't need to- Actions speak louder than words.
But just a little reminder! Oh yes it's Boeing
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #13  
Old 02.07.2009, 19:47
hoppy
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Another Airbus plane crash A310-300

Guess I'll get no thanks for this but maybe they should give us some extra in-flight coaching- just in case:

Dare I say- anyone looking for the vertical stabilizer-or vertical role-just to rule it out? Now they are saying that the Air France hit the water intact.

Last edited by hoppy; 02.07.2009 at 21:12.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
<breaking news> Plane crash in NY state jrspet International affairs/politics 0 13.02.2009 06:32
<breaking news> US Airways plane crash in NY Castro International affairs/politics 22 19.01.2009 02:54
Michael Connell dies in Plane crash hoppy International affairs/politics 1 08.01.2009 12:58
Many dead in Madrid plane crash Castro International affairs/politics 46 24.08.2008 03:29
Plane crash in Basel Stadt mimi1981 Swiss politics/news 14 24.07.2007 00:47


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:47.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0