Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05.08.2009, 17:07
Castro's Avatar
la mod
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Basel-Land of Smiles
Posts: 5,107
Groaned at 103 Times in 83 Posts
Thanked 14,621 Times in 4,711 Posts
Castro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond repute
Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements filed on August 3 in federal court in Virginia. The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life."

In their testimony, both men also allege that Blackwater was smuggling weapons into Iraq. One of the men alleges that Prince turned a profit by transporting "illegal" or "unlawful" weapons into the country on Prince's private planes. They also charge that Prince and other Blackwater executives destroyed incriminating videos, emails and other documents and have intentionally deceived the US State Department and other federal agencies. The identities of the two individuals were sealed out of concerns for their safety.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Castro for this useful post:
  #2  
Old 07.08.2009, 03:14
hoppy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
View Post
Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder



http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill
I saw this earlier and it really freaked me out. Some things scare me,this was one of those things.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07.08.2009, 03:20
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northern Indiana, USA
Posts: 187
Groaned at 114 Times in 83 Posts
Thanked 228 Times in 130 Posts
Morgannon is considered knowledgeableMorgannon is considered knowledgeableMorgannon is considered knowledgeable
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
View Post
I saw this earlier and it really freaked me out. Some things scare me,this was one of those things.
Keep in mind these are allegations - not convictions. Big difference there. I can allege that Obama killed and ate babies and swear to it in a statement, but no one in their right mind would believe it.

So let this court case proceed, let the jury decide, and then get scared if he's guilty.

Morg
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07.08.2009, 04:03
hoppy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
View Post
Keep in mind these are allegations - not convictions. Big difference there. I can allege that Obama killed and ate babies and swear to it in a statement, but no one in their right mind would believe it.

So let this court case proceed, let the jury decide, and then get scared if he's guilty.

Morg
Morgannon now you are freaking me out- I guess that anyone does that is on the forum more than me, please don't talk about eating babies.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07.08.2009, 04:36
Dougal's Breakfast's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 16,555
Groaned at 1,063 Times in 822 Posts
Thanked 44,083 Times in 13,632 Posts
Dougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
View Post
I can allege that Obama killed and ate babies and swear to it in a statement, but no one in their right mind would believe it.
I believe it. I saw it on the internets.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07.08.2009, 04:41
ch-expat
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Those guys are creeps.
There is a fascinating book written by the same Scahill:


http://www.amazon.com/Blackwater-Pow...9609108&sr=1-1
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07.08.2009, 04:44
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northern Indiana, USA
Posts: 187
Groaned at 114 Times in 83 Posts
Thanked 228 Times in 130 Posts
Morgannon is considered knowledgeableMorgannon is considered knowledgeableMorgannon is considered knowledgeable
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder





Holy crap I stand corrected!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07.08.2009, 05:07
hoppy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

I hope it isn't true otherwise we may be in for a 'Blackwatergate'
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07.08.2009, 11:24
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cowshitsbourg
Posts: 1,373
Groaned at 322 Times in 135 Posts
Thanked 607 Times in 291 Posts
Canadian_dude has a reputation beyond reputeCanadian_dude has a reputation beyond reputeCanadian_dude has a reputation beyond reputeCanadian_dude has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Guns, murder, money, jesus, corruption... nothing new here.


The straight flush of politics.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 21.08.2009, 06:08
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Sticks
Posts: 25
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
SafePassage has no particular reputation at present
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
View Post
Those guys are creeps.
There is a fascinating book written by the same Scahill:


http://www.amazon.com/Blackwater-Pow...9609108&sr=1-1
The only difference between Lon Horiuchi and Erik Prince is that one is a government thug killer on salery and the other is a contract assasin on retainer by the government and the New World Order.

If Rham Emaunel were to ask Erik to send some of his boys out to kill Ron Paul or Pat Buchanon or just some agrarian oriented guys out in the country as an object lesson to the rest of us, Erik would do it without blinking.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01.01.2010, 17:43
hoppy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

A teenager said to me today- 'isn't that sick?- Blackwater got off on a technicality.'

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...0101-llxr.html
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01.01.2010, 17:57
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bern
Posts: 195
Groaned at 22 Times in 13 Posts
Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts
swans1984 is considered unworthyswans1984 is considered unworthyswans1984 is considered unworthy
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

As someone has said these are allegations not convictions, and i find it very easy for people to comment on these issues with the only knowledge is of reading these things in the paper, maybe the people who comment on these should go and try and spend some time in Theatre in Iraq and Afghan and find out the stress and pressures the troops and contractors are under each day, people dont get told of the constant mortar attacks on the camps, the daily contact which is had with the opposition.
I firmly believe we are entering a pink and fluffy PC driven world where the do gooders have they say with out knowing the truth.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01.01.2010, 17:58
gbn's Avatar
gbn gbn is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Zollikon
Posts: 2,391
Groaned at 82 Times in 59 Posts
Thanked 1,720 Times in 844 Posts
gbn has a reputation beyond reputegbn has a reputation beyond reputegbn has a reputation beyond reputegbn has a reputation beyond reputegbn has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

"Technicality" is not quite the same as "prosecutors had wrongly used incriminating statements the guards made to State Department investigators under a threat of job loss"

Unless "constitutional rights" only applies to liberals and democrats? (See UK Times links below)

Of course, now pick your website/articles/bias that suits to refute what I've said, prove your conspiracy etc...

UK Times and UK Telegraph
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01.01.2010, 18:05
hoppy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

I am just imaging a Blackwater guy driving to work

Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #15  
Old 01.01.2010, 18:07
hoppy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

And we complain that foreigners don't know how to drive?

Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01.01.2010, 18:17
Treverus's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 10,397
Groaned at 249 Times in 210 Posts
Thanked 18,843 Times in 6,897 Posts
Treverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
View Post
I firmly believe we are entering a pink and fluffy PC driven world where the do gooders have they say with out knowing the truth.
The truth is that all sides agree that somewhere between 14 and 17 completely innocent people have lost their lives in the incident and that they were attacked and killed without any prior provocation or danger. Nobody ever made a statement against it or did I miss it?

I think the world knows enough of the stress the soldiers have and that some cases can discussed based on the situation (for example the bombing of those oil trucks in Afghanistan last year that killed many innocent). But this case is pretty much without a doubt a crime. The only question that remains is weather the federal agents that screwed up the prosecution so badly are really that incompetent on an individual level or if the whole thing was set up to end like this.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01.01.2010, 18:20
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bern
Posts: 195
Groaned at 22 Times in 13 Posts
Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts
swans1984 is considered unworthyswans1984 is considered unworthyswans1984 is considered unworthy
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

What a people trying to achieve by putting these videos on of the amercicans and trying to make them look bad, we should be getting behind these troops who are giving their live out there not making them look bad, and especially at a time when they should be with their families this would be a great moral booster for them.
http://www.mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk/BSUsite...August2008.pdf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7912865.stm#
How would these people think of all these4 comments and the families.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01.01.2010, 18:22
cannut's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 6,577
Groaned at 178 Times in 138 Posts
Thanked 5,756 Times in 3,155 Posts
cannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Hahahahah your nuts:
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01.01.2010, 18:23
hoppy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
Erik Prince fancies himself as a Christian crusader ridding the world of its Muslim population. Apparently, Blackwater has been killing former employees who have shared information about this crim..
.

Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01.01.2010, 18:26
cannut's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 6,577
Groaned at 178 Times in 138 Posts
Thanked 5,756 Times in 3,155 Posts
cannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

Quote:
View Post
And we complain that foreigners don't know how to drive?

Hoopy those guys are in a combat zone
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mandy sticks it to Starbucks founder Castro International affairs/politics 30 30.04.2009 12:04
Air ions, static electric, 'witches winds', 'murder winds' and 'diminshed sex drive' Jamesk General off-topic 17 20.06.2007 16:26


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 17:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0