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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

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There are several posts earlier in this thread that discuss the relationship of National Insurance contributions and the National Health Service.
Yes first page a few posts explain in detail...

"As long as you are a UK resident then there is no idea of paying for your healthcare at time of treatment, you just contribute your National Insurance each month like everyone else and if you are out of work for some reason you will still be covered."
Is what I though NHS is financed by getting money out of National Insurance and Tax money.

Wikipedia:
National Insurance (NI) in the United Kingdom was initially a contributory system of insurance against illness and unemployment...

Maybe it does good the Illnesses, but I have concerns about the unemployment side of it...
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Old 16.08.2009, 14:49
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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

National Insurance and the National Health Service are not the same thing.

This thread is all about the National Health Service.

It briefly went off on a tangent about Unemployment Benefit, but that was mainly your doing (and I, like an idiot, went along with it for a while).

If you want to moan about not being paid lots of money for the privilege of being overqualified and unemployed, then please feel free to start a thread on this subject.

Here, however, we are discussing the National Health Service, the services of which are available to all, regardless of their income.

Is that any clearer?
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Old 16.08.2009, 14:56
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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

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National Insurance and the National Health Service are not the same thing.

This thread is all about the National Health Service.

It briefly went off on a tangent about Unemployment Benefit, but that was mainly your doing (and I, like an idiot, went along with it for a while).

If you want to moan about not being paid lots of money for the privilege of being overqualified and unemployed, then please feel free to start a thread on this subject.

Here, however, we are discussing the National Health Service, the services of which are available to all, regardless of their income.

Is that any clearer?
Again don't spread lies such as "I moan about I am not paid lot of money," or that I am "over qualified" or "unemployed". read again it's you acting "like an idiot" who interpreted such things, along with "i have no respect for chiefs, or whatever else.


NHS, National Health Service, in the UK does get its money from people working in Britain officially.

That's were I got confused,

Thanks everyone reading for having letting me know my confusion in a nice friendly way.

as for you, pedant BRITISH idiot, thanks for lowering your attitude and not confusing I said Cleaners or Chief are lower than me, is that any clearer?

Edit: I added BRITISH after "pedant" and before "idiot" as it seems to be important.

And by the way we are talking about "Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS" which has nothing to do with British NHS, therefore any British idiots or "foreigners" should prevent from talking to THEIR topics.
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as for you, pedant idiot, thanks for lowering your attitude and not confusing I said Cleaners or Chief are lower than me, is that any clearer?
Oh, it's quite plain. You think that cleaning and working in a kitchen are jobs which are beneath you because you have a degree in IT.

Meanwhile, the rest of us, when we were unemployed, took jobs where we could: Filling toothpaste tubes, cleaning toilets, collapsing boxes, screwing tops on bottles, selling cheap toys, lifting furniture.

But you want a decent job.

Well, bully for you.
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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

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And by the way we are talking about "Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS" which has nothing to do with British NHS
Can I vote this "Best Statement of the Thread"?

Mr Return, the entire thread is about the British National Health Service.

You can read, I presume?
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Oh, it's quite plain. You think that cleaning and working in a kitchen are jobs which are beneath you because you have a degree in IT.

Meanwhile, the rest of us, when we were unemployed, took jobs where we could: Filling toothpaste tubes, cleaning toilets, collapsing boxes, screwing tops on bottles, selling cheap toys, lifting furniture.

But you want a decent job.

Well, bully for you.
Well if you go off topic, I worked as Glass Collector (cleaning toilets and vomit of GOOD BRITISH PEOPLE), Dish washer (yes whatever the name, kitchen porter but they made me replace the broken machine), Manufacturer, Security agent, Temping worker, Shelves filler (dont know the name), and many other jobs I don't want to bother remembering.

so before you assume I haven't took such jobs, you'd better double check.

And now I want a decent job in IT, is that a crime?

You and your pedant idiot attitude deduced I said it's lower than me, which you are wrong (again).

But we are out of topic so please cut the extrapolations you are making about me, nobody else cares anyway.
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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

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Can I vote this "Best Statement of the Thread"?

Mr Return, the entire thread is about the British National Health Service.

You can read, I presume?

Americans put the boot into the NHS
They are Americans from London, I suppose??

You can read, I presume?
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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

Guys, please stick to the topic, which BTW is:

Americans put the boot into the NHS

Posts that are deemed OT will be removed.

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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

Look if you can click a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American

Or if you can not, you will find an extract from that source from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

American

American(s) may refer to:
A citizen or something of or from the United States (see also Names for U.S. citizens)
A citizen of one of the nations of the Americas
A person who considers himself/herself to be ethnically American (see American ethnicity)
The indigenous peoples of the Americas
In casual usage, American English: the version of English spoken in the U.S.


Do you see any mention of Good British Citizen there?
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Guys, please stick to the topic, which BTW is:

Americans put the boot into the NHS

Posts that are deemed OT will be removed.

Thanks!
My mistake I have done off topic by confusing National Insurance (unemployment contribution) and NHS (health contribution).
I won't be offended if you delete the topics where I got confused.
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My mistake I have done off topic by confusing National Insurance (unemployment contribution) and NHS (health contribution).
I won't be offended if you delete the topics where I got confused.
Do you really know what the topic is?

Only the UK have an NHS thefore it is about the BRITISH and not the American NHS!!!
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Do you really know what the topic is?

Only the UK have an NHS thefore it is about the BRITISH and not the American NHS!!!
The Americans who are trying to create something similar to the British NHS, while still taking into account the Americans specificities.

Therefore this is not about the BRITISH, but about a reference of Health System as a basis to create a NEW ONE.

Thanks anyway!

The moderator said the topic is: "Americans put the boot into the NHS", I hope that helps you?
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Do you really know what the topic is?
He hasn't got a clue!

Here's the headline from the newspaper article which inspired the OP to start the thread:


=Barack Obama health plan: British experts defend NHS against US Right-wing attacks ===British health professionals have mounted a robust defence of the NHS after the organisation was cited by US conservatives as a reason why President Barack Obama's plans for government-controlled medical care must be opposed.==

Now, Mr Return. Which bit of "This thread is about the British National Health Service" don't you understand?


Please do stay on topic, as the Moderators have requested.

(and my apologies to the Moderators for humouring this troll)
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Sorry, Hoppy, but that's rubbish. Apparently, there's not been a year since the 1930s when a British soldier hasn't died on active duty (Mauritius, Aden, Egypt, Malaya, Korea, Sierra Leone, etc).
A retired RAF officer told me that one back in the 1970s. He'd spotted an obituary in the daily paper and explained to me that when you saw an obituary about a member of the services dying "on overseas duty", that probably meant they died on "active duty".

There are still British protectorates and dependencies around the globe, and yesterday's Independent brought us Britain seizes control of scandal-hit dependency

[quote]Britain imposed direct rule on the Turks and Caicos islands yesterday, suspending the constitution, dismissing the Parliament, handing power to a London-appointed Governor and halting the right to trial by jury.[/url]

and yes, the Royal Navy are there:

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While direct rule is largely welcomed on the islands, the Royal Navy has stationed a supply vessel in the deep channel between the Turks and Caicos.
I don't listen to the BBC World Service any more, but when I did (at least in the edition I could receive in the UK), they reported the movement of various RN vessels to strategic spots and you knew that trouble of one kind or another was brewing. As with the obituaries, this doesn't hit the online editions of the news.
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The Americans who are trying to create something similar to the British NHS, while still taking into account the Americans specificities.

Therefore this is not about the BRITISH, but about a reference of Health System as a basis to create a NEW ONE.

Thanks anyway!

The moderator said the topic is: "Americans put the boot into the NHS", I hope that helps you?
Yes Americans put the boot into British NHS!!!

THE NHS IS BRITISH. END OF!!
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Yes Americans put the boot into British NHS!!!

THE NHS IS BRITISH. END OF!!
Why are they interested into NHS?
to create their OWN.

Do you think Obama wants to participates into British Culture and see about his British NHS appointment?

NO.

They are trying to create their OWN is that not clear???

END OF!
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Why are they interested into NHS?
to create their OWN.

Do you think Obama wants to participates into British Culture and see about his British NHS appointment?

NO.

They are trying to create their OWN is that not clear???

END OF!
Yes they are trying to create a new heathplan for the US but American right wingers have been attacking the British version.

Please read the first article or click on to CNN or the BBC!
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Yes they are trying to create a new heathplan for the US but American right wingers have been attacking the British version.

Please read the first article or click on to CNN or the BBC!
YES! We are making some PROGRESS here!!!
Of course they attack or refer to the British version, because like you said currently there's only ONE existing NHS: the British one.

But the US one is still being elaborated which means it can be different, or enhanced or whatever, that's why we can discuss about it.
Well apparently we can not but...
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Re: Americans put the boot into the NHS

You are aware, perhaps, that NHS is an acronym for one particular health service, not a general term for any such?

And that "the American one", if it is created, will almost certainly be called something different, with a different resulting acronym?

Talking about "the American NHS" is as weird as talking about "the British CIA" or "the Mexican SVP."
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YES! We are making some PROGRESS here!!!
Of course they attack or refer to the British version, because like you said currently there's only ONE existing NHS: the British one.

But the US one is still being elaborated which means it can be different, or enhanced or whatever, that's why we can discuss about it.
Well apparently we can not but...
Indeed. But this thread specifically concerns the British National Health Service, not the plan that Mr Obama would like to implement.

Did you follow the link in the initial post?
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