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17.11.2009, 19:34
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DB is very much his own person. He and I can be arch enemies, he can give everyone stick, but he has street credibility or rather forum credibility. If you check out his reputation you will see that he has earned a very high status. Do I like him- he can make me very angry. Do I agree with his politics- probably not. Does he make me think -definitely and laugh. Do I think think he is clever -yes.
Do you make us think Hare Krishna-no! You just attack. If you want to stay on the forum watch and learn for a while.
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17.11.2009, 19:39
| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | With all due respect to you Ravi, the difference between you and some forum veterans are they also do other things than discuss religion for example help people who struggle to find their feet in a new country.
If you think of it when you dont have a single minded dedication towards something things can get pretty boring in a new country. 
The basic idea of this forum is to help people and there are lot of expats who have benefited. So if the Mods and the veterans act pissed of with you they have all the right to be.
I actually am wondering why you are still not banned But yeah we live in a democratic world where free will prevails!!!! | | | | |
problems is these ppl start controversial threads like islam burka, minaret rascism, palestine, kashmir and what not.. inciting hatred ....
i have personally asked Nicky to BAN me... so that atleast the it brings a sigh of relief to alahmedadnan,et al.
we live in a democratic country but an undemoratic forum.. which deletes our posts and encourages their posts..
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17.11.2009, 19:42
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we are on a forum that allows free speech but not pushy, loud, aggressive juvenile, rude, racist behaviour
does that ring a bell?
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17.11.2009, 19:43
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Do you make us think Hare Krishna-no! You just attack. If you want to stay on the forum watch and learn for a while. | | | | |
Where did i Attack..??? my first post was questioning the idea of a FORMLESS god.. and what did i recieve in return.. blaspheme on Idols..
where were the so called peace keeping moderators then.. ???? ..
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17.11.2009, 19:46
| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | we are on a forum that allows free speech but not pushy, loud, aggressive juvenile, rude, racist behaviour
does that ring a bell? | | | | |
yes it does.. it reminds me of alahmedadnan and his mates..
1. where did rascism come in btw.. ooh ok maybe when i wrote " jews are good people "
2. aggressive juvenile : was it when i strongly disagreed abt formless god. and pedophiles.
3. Rude : was it when i expressed genuine prayer for all innocent victims killed in the name of religion. and also prayer for muslims and jews to unite.
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17.11.2009, 19:47
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Ravi and HK . . . a couple of other threads have already been closed down because you spiralled them off topic and out of control.
Some people would like to discuss Israel and Palestine without this stuff getting in the way.
How about taking a deep breath and introducing a calmer tone to your posts? And keep them on the topic in question?
Thanks.
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17.11.2009, 19:56
| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | How about taking a deep breath and introducing a calmer tone to your posts? And keep them on the topic in question?
Thanks. | | | | | I am quitting this Forum ...
I will definitely spread the message to all Western ppl living in Swiss. on how this forum is being Run by some fundamentists and biased ppl who have nothing else other than encouraging controversial threads..to propagate their brainwashed beliefs..
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17.11.2009, 20:01
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| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | using text speak on a forum for English speakers from all across the world who don't speak English as their mother tongue make it very difficult for them to understand. We have always asked for people NOT to use text speak - Hare Krishna was using it constantly | | | | | Fair enough about the txt speak. | Quote: |  | | | You will also notice that generalisations are not tolerated on most threads here (where it is picked up on by a mod) - Swiss related threads are no exception | | | | | I will take your word for it even though my eyes showed me something else. | Quote: |  | | | Quit with the sweeping comments about Muslims and have a sensible peaceful debate | | | | | Which is what I was doing and countering generalization that Islam is automatically a peaceful religion and has only one or two bad Apples within it. Even Hari I think does not think that box of Islam is full of bad apples only. It's just that the bad apples are not only handful like D. Breakfast would like us to believe.
If half a million Kashmiri Hindus can be driven out in a place with a total population of 5 million with the use of violence then it's even more important that Swiss be aware of such discussions as a handful of bad apples could cause similar trouble here in the future  All the good apples normally turn the other way and chalk it to Allah's will. | Quote: | |  | | | The basic idea of this forum is to help people and there are lot of expats who have benefited. So if the Mods and the veterans act pissed of with you they have all the right to be. | | | | | Kalyan I did not create any thread on Islam. I merely took part in already created threads. If sole aim of the forum is what you are suggesting then why have such threads and sections in the first place? I take part in whichever threads interest me. I don't think a new member has to wear a charity badge or justify his reasons for taking part in any particular thread.
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17.11.2009, 20:02
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| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | this thread is bullshit..
the moderator deletes posts pro jews..
i only wrote Jews are good ppl and they have deleted my post..
no Free speech.. so truly muslimish | | | | | Well, you've been called. As a mod I can see the deleted post you wrote and it was pretty daft. Don't pretend otherwise, please, you're only fooling yourself. | Quote: | |  | | | is telling that Jews are good people.. offensive ????
wake up dude.. u are in Switzerland.. not Fundamentalistan.. | | | | | Hmm, you'll find a healthy cross section of both Pro-Israel and Pro-Palestine Moderators on here, and a few inbetween and rightly so. I'm proud of our diversity. Keep on with the charade and those warnings will suddenly make sense.
Hateful or disrespectful posts won't be tolerated by whomever posts them. We are kindly in issuing warnings, as we feel EF is an inclusive environment. Nobody needs to feel victimised nor hurt on this Forum; let's not freeze anyone out.
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17.11.2009, 20:03
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| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | Ravi and HK . . . a couple of other threads have already been closed down because you spiralled them off topic and out of control.
Some people would like to discuss Israel and Palestine without this stuff getting in the way.
Thanks. | | | | | I would like to discuss a very important and current Swiss topic of Islam in Switzerland but the thread is locked thanks to a cry baby called D. Breakfast and whatever connection he has with the mods. He by the way has still not been punished for breaking forum rules.
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17.11.2009, 20:06
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| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | I am quitting this Forum ...
I will definitely spread the message to all Western ppl living in Swiss. on how this forum is being Run by some fundamentists and biased ppl who have nothing else other than encouraging controversial threads..to propagate their brainwashed beliefs.. | | | | | Don't be a cry baby and chill! Relax and make calm sensible posts from now like I have been doing | 
17.11.2009, 20:12
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| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | I am quitting this Forum ...
I will definitely spread the message to all Western ppl living in Swiss. on how this forum is being Run by some fundamentists and biased ppl who have nothing else other than encouraging controversial threads..to propagate their brainwashed beliefs.. | | | | | ... and to organize curry nights, and pre-comedy dinners, and guided tours of railway tunnels, and to discuss cycling routes, and language learning difficulties, and what happens when my girlfriend's permit expires, and where to find brown sugar and canned pumpkin and gjetost.
But you wouldn't have seen any of those threads, would you?
Perhaps we should start including a mention of ISLAM in every new thread, so that more people can find them. | The following 3 users would like to thank MathNut for this useful post: | | 
17.11.2009, 20:13
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| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | I would like to discuss a very important and current Swiss topic of Islam in Switzerland but the thread is locked thanks to a cry baby called D. Breakfast and whatever connection he has with the mods. He by the way has still not been punished for breaking forum rules. | | | | | Mr Breakfast has no weight with the moderators. He's treated as equally as you or I.
Threads are rarely locked; however recently it's been necessary to lock some which spiral outta control. Generally the reasons why are clear: we're getting nowhere with them and they're not contributing to the general topic under discussion.
We don't punish anyone here, rather take them out of circulation or send them a warning, as is appropriate. Containment is preferable.
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17.11.2009, 20:31
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Perhaps we should start including a mention of ISLAM in every new thread, so that more people can find them.  | | | | | Good for generating traffic for the website. Hari will come weekly to collect his share.
Current Palestinian held land along with a chunk from Jordan should be taken to create independent country of Palestine. Jerusalem should belong to no one. Muslims from Jerusalem should be made to vacate and move to the new country of Palestine and Jews from Jerusalem should be moved into Israel proper. Only visitors should be allowed to Jerusalem. Israel could be in charge of security as they are good at that.
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17.11.2009, 20:41
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have you read stuff posted by aliahamed & dervaish?
DB is out of control on more than one occassion, but he always gets benefit of doubt, there was no need to start the kashmir thread | Quote: | |  | | | we are on a forum that allows free speech but not pushy, loud, aggressive juvenile, rude, racist behaviour
does that ring a bell? | | | | | | This user would like to thank indian_in_zug for this useful post: | | 
17.11.2009, 20:48
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| | Re: Israel - Palestine - Part 2 | Quote: | |  | | | have you read stuff posted by aliahamed & dervaish?
DB is out of control on more than one occassion, but he always gets benefit of doubt, there was no need to start the kashmir thread | | | | | As moderators we can't be all places at all times. If you feel there's something unsavoury about a post, please use the Report icon and we'll take a look.
Threads which go out of orbit are eventually closed. Closing is a last gesture, as the players obviously can't be trusted to keep things on track. Everyone is responsible for this community.
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17.11.2009, 20:51
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tone down hare krishna.. this forum is very good intially to settle in the country, later on to make some friends, attending events.. there are lots of very helpful people here | Quote: | |  | | | I am quitting this Forum ...
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17.11.2009, 20:56
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...and what do we make of Israel's plans - as announced today - to build 900 new settlements in disputed territory..?
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17.11.2009, 20:58
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Yesterday evening on Channel 4's Dispatches. Might shine a light on why Israel seems to get away with whatever it likes. Inside Britain's Israel Lobby | This user would like to thank Castro for this useful post: | | 
17.11.2009, 21:52
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Ahh - the lobby program.
Lots of people spent time to discover that there are lobbies in the UK - one would assume a few minutes with Google would suffice (after all, all the info is available online), but auntie B is very generous when it comes to trying to dig up dirt on Israel. I found it interesting that an "investigation" is defending the BBC's decision to keep the Balen report secret.
btw - Uncle Max's Avatar of a gorgeous, smart & loving Israeli(born) girl next to a killer is quite appropriate for this thread ;-)
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